You can use http://www.netbsd.org/cgi-bin/sendpr.cgi?gndb=netbsd if you 
don't want to use 'send-pr' locally.  I use the web page form all the 
time for PR's and it works extremely well for me.

adrian.

Alicia da Conceicao wrote:

>>1. The GNATS problem report database does acknowledge all properly 
>>submitted reports with an E-mail which includes the assigned PR 
>>number. If you didn't get such a confirmation, the three most likely 
>>possibilities are:
>>1.1. the PR was improperly formatted (e.g. some mailer strip the ">" 
>>in front of the PR field names)
>>1.2. the return address on the PR submission E-mail is unreplyable 
>>(i.e. no A or MX record reachable from gnats.netbsd.org, or a 
>>firewall in the way). If a host can send E-mail, it must have at 
>>least an MX record in the public DNS.
>>1.3. the gnats.netbsd.org host never got the problem report in the 
>>first place (check your mail system log and the outbound mail queue - 
>>is the report still in there?)
>>I can speak with some authority in this matter - I do a lot of the 
>>NetBSD GNATS PR database administration.
> 
> 
> Hi Eric:
> 
> I don't recall using any e-mail, just "send-pr", and it reported
> "send-pr: problem report sent".  Unfortunately no confirmation
> e-mail was sent.
> 
> I don't have (nor do I want) sendmail or any other SMTP server
> configured on my laptop.  My laptop only uses Mozilla for e-mail,
> and for outgoing e-mail it forwards it to a remote SMTP (sendmail)
> server.
> 
> The laptop is on the Internet, behind firewalls, so if "send-pr"
> makes its own direc SMTP connection netbsd.org, it should work.
> However, if "send-pr" try to use a local SMTP mailer, then it won't
> be received
> 
> Just checked again, and it still isn't in the webpage or in my
> mailq, which is empty.  But I did check my "/var/log/maillog" and
> discovered the following:
> 
> ==================================================================
> Apr 23 00:47:57 luna sendmail[6690]: i3N4luB6006690: from=alicia, size=1071, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=<200404230447.i3N4luB6006690@luna.engine.ca>, relay=alicia@localhost
> Apr 23 00:47:57 luna sendmail[6690]: i3N4luB6006690: to=gnats-bugs@gnats.NetBSD.org, ctladdr=alicia (100/100), delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=31071, relay=localhost.engine.ca. [127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Connection refused by localhost.engine.ca.
> Apr 23 01:11:21 luna sendmail[679]: i3N5BLl8000679: from=alicia, size=1357, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=<200404230511.i3N5BLl8000679@luna.engine.ca>, relay=alicia@localhost
> Apr 23 01:11:22 luna sendmail[679]: i3N5BLl8000679: to=gnats-bugs@gnats.NetBSD.org, ctladdr=alicia (100/100), delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:01, mailer=relay, pri=31357, relay=localhost.engine.ca. [127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Connection refused by localhost.engine.ca.
> ==================================================================
> 
> So it looks like "send-pr" does try to use sendmail on my laptop,
> which *IS NOT A LAPTOP NOT A SERVER, NOR DO I WANT IT TO BE A SMTP
> SERVER*.  So these 2 "send-pr" messages, and a previous one I sent
> a couple of days ago are lost, and unfortunately, I have to retype
> them again from scratch.
> 
> Is there an alternative to "send-pr" for laptops, desktops, and
> embedded systems?  Maybe someone can put up a webpage form at
> "www.netbsd.org" to submit GNATS bugs?
> 
> Alicia.
>