Subject: Re: dead computer
To: Chris Jones <firstname.lastname@example.org>
From: John Utz <email@example.com>
Date: 04/18/2002 16:58:12
i must take *minor* issue with your criticism of wince.
the list will probably sigh, because i do this nearly *everytime* somebody
bitches about it.
but i spent three+ years as a wince person at BSQUARE ( helped to write
the kernel debugger amoung other things ), so i have some fond memories of
On Thu, 18 Apr 2002, Chris Jones wrote:
> Windows CE bites! You feel sick. Windows CE bites! You die...
wince is a pretty cool os in a lot of ways. from a CS guy perspective, it
actually represented the first new thinking in a shipping OS ( really
micro microkernel with core activities implemented in these hard to
describe 'kernel adjuncts' called PSE's ( and PSE stands for different
things depending on who you ask ). so, the graphics stuff is in one PSE,
the userlib stuff is in another, etc.
it's relatively modular and consistent, *portable* at a level that
appoaches (gasp dare i say it, unix!) and you can yank some stuff out.
and, if you are a minimally competent win32 person, you can yank *mass*
stuff out and just stub out all the things that the linker complains
so, it's a nice OS that CS guys can be proud of.
but, the CS guy perspective doesnt *sell* anything. :-)
so, lets move to the real world of software darwinism at good ol' M$FT.
mass more people at M$FT make a living off of the shipping cruftladen
desktop thing. these people appropriately regarded wince as a threat, and
they used their considerable skills to avoid being made redundant by
so, considered on it's technical merits, wince 2.0 should have been the
new *desktop* OS, with a new 'cruft compatibility' PSE added on for
keeping Office functional ( cause that monstrosity is the cash cow! ).
but, that would have caused many people to eventually lose their jobs, and
that wasnt going to happen.
so, the wince product management team continued to stuff their desktop OS
features onto teeny little boxes like the mobilepro and the palm sized
things, because being a PM at M$FT is about continuous product
'improvement', tho a more accurate description would be continuous product
John L. Utz III
Idiocy is the Impulse Function in the Convolution of Life