Subject: Re: What did I do wrong?
To: None <,>
From: Jason Mitchell <>
List: port-hpcarm
Date: 10/02/2007 00:33:06

	I created a "miniroot" kernel and wrote up some directions a long time
ago. The email is archived here:

	The directions should still work but the files have moved. They are now
at: I also did a newer version with a
NetBSD 3.0 kernel at: http://www.bigjar.cojm/hpcarm. In either case the
same instructions apply: copy the files to a dos partition of a flash
card, then run hpcboot.exe from your Jornada.

	Be forewarned. The site where is hosted is severely
bandwidth constrained from 8am to 6pm EDT. So you'll want to download
these files outside of that window.

Jason M.

On Fri, 2007-09-28 at 15:12 -0400, Brad Spencer wrote:
> Hello,
>    I have wanted to get NetBSD running on my Jornada 720 since almost 6 months
>    ago! I was so glad to find you site, since it seemed so easy. As your email
>    address is at, I assume you are somewhat official. Anyways, I
>    tried to format the CF card from Linux. Is that wrong? I made the DOS
>    partition a FAT16 one. Are they the same thing? And also, when you said to
>    leave the rest for NetBSD, did you mean to format the rest of the drive in a
>    NetBSD filesystem? I'm not sure how long ago your article was written, but I
>    believe a new NetBSD is now out. Would that be fixed if I installed from the
>    network? I currently get up to the .exe bootloader but cannot boot. I really
>    wanted to try NetBSD as an alternative to Linux on my Jornada 720. Do I have
>    to have NetBSD already installed on another computer to make this work? Are
>    there any NetBSD LiveCD's? Thanks a lot!
>    -- 
>    -Rabbitt
> Its been a long time since I built one of these from scratch, but I seem
> to remember ....
> 1) You make two partitions on the CF card.  The first is a normal FAT16
>    of, say, 5MB to 10MB or so.  You put the NetBSD MS-WIN CE boot loader
>    there and a bootable kernel or "miniroot".
> 2) You create another partition on the CF card with id 169, or you can
>    leave it unformated or, if you can, you can put a Berkeley FFS on it
>    with the proper endian with type 169.  I did the last one from another
>    system running NetBSD.
> 3) You then have to get a boot strap NetBSD system running.  I don't know
>    what the official method of doing this is for the Joranada [anymore].
>    There might be a miniroot type concept which is a single bootable file
>    that contains a filesystem that it unpacks itself into memory to run
>    the rest of the system.  This method will probably provide 'sysinst'
>    which can be used to put the proper file system on the rest of the CF
>    card and then unpack the rest of the NetBSD system [probably via a LAN
>    connection].
> 3b) or..  if you managed to get a BSD FFS on the CF card external to the
>     Jornada, then it is very simple to just unpack the NetBSD/hpcarm
>     system onto the card directly.  This is what I did with a notebook
>     computer running NetBSD/i386.
> I assume you are asking for a LiveCD for a NetBSD/i386 system??  These
> exist, as far as I know.  The simple bootable CD that is used for i386
> installs would probably also work just fine.  You would write a smallish
> .iso file to a CD and then boot the CD.  This would put you into the
> 'sysinst' menu, usually used to install NetBSD, and one of the options
> there would be to exist to a 'sh'.  There should be enough stuff present
> to set up a CF card for the hpcarm port, assuming that your hardware is
> supported well by the install disk.  You would still have to get the
> hpcarc files from someplace which might mean configuring the LAN manually,
> or some such.
> This probably wasn't helpful.