Hello,

	There is another way to install NetBSD on a Jornada that doesn't require a
second machine at all. I created an install kernel that runs on the Jornada
720 and provides the menu driven installation system. Think of it as the
equivalent of a bootable NetBSD CD for the Jornada. You can get instructions
on how to use it here:

http://mail-index.netbsd.org/port-hpcarm/2003/01/07/0001.html

	I know the docs are old, but I know that the install kernel can
successfully install NetBSD 1.6 and 2.0. I haven't tried  2.1 or 3.0, but I
don't see why it wouldn't work. Perhaps it should get added to the wiki? I'd
be happy to add the info, but I'm somewhat wiki-ignornant, so if someone
could point me to a wiki tutorial that would be great.

Thanks,

Jason M.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: port-hpcarm-owner@NetBSD.org
> [mailto:port-hpcarm-owner@NetBSD.org]On Behalf Of Mark Kirby
> Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2006 5:22 AM
> To: Tobias Jansey
> Cc: port-hpcarm@NetBSD.org
> Subject: Re: Requesting an updated in-depth tutorial on NetBSD
> installation
>
>
> On Saturday 18 March 2006 02:13, Tobias Jansey wrote:
> > I appreciate the effort immensely, but I'd like a brand new,
> > user-written tutorial that takes full advantage of what the new
> > incarnations of NetBSD have to offer. Both of these articles are two
> > years old. I'm looking for a Linux-specific installation method that
> > teaches users not only how to install the NetBSD operating system on a
> > Compact Flash card, but a little info on general use such as obtaining
> > applications off the web, configuring X, and the like. Think NetBSD
> > for Morons. Beyond the initial installation process, my goal is to
> > have a simple setup, complete with GUI and basic PDA functions, that
> > your average Joe Shmoe could use without too much trouble and a
> > tutorial on how to reach exactly that.
> >
> > Sorry if I'm sounding a bit demanding. I just don't want this device
> > to fall to out of date info now that it has a hefty load of brand new
> > users. Long live the Jornada!
>
> Hi Tobias,
>
> Those docs Peter pointed you to are still relevent, the install
> procedure has
> not changed.
>
> However if you want a more recent tutorial i wrote an article for
> the NetBSD
> wiki.
>
> You can get it at
> http://wiki.onetbsd.org/index.php/How_to_install_NetBSD_on_a_hpcarm
>
> please note this configures swap on the flash card, you probably want to
> disable swap all together (not sure how you do that but it can be done).
>
> There is also the oreilly articles these can be found at:
>
> http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2003/06/05/Big_Scary_Daemons.html
> http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2003/09/25/Big_Scary_Daemons.html
>
> Thats as close as your going to get for an all in one tutorial from
> installation to 3rd party apps installed.
>
> You will need another machine that can build NetBSD from source.
> Linux will do
> here is some info on how to get the NetBSD sources and get it built
> http://www.netbsd.org/guide/en/part-compile.html.
>
> As for getting full PDA functionality i don't think it is
> possible. The 720
> has only 32MB of memory. NetBSD doesn't use much but X uses a
> lot. Also if
> you do compile a program you can pretty much guarantee that the
> windows will
> not fit on the screen.
>
> As for configuring X you dont need to, just issue startx at the
> prompt and you
> are away.
>
> Hope that at least gets you started.
>
> Mark
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