Subject: Re: Cobalt Qube 2 Memory Simms again..
To: Pete Rushmere <pete@rushmere.org>
From: Michael Bramley <brams@mac.com>
List: port-cobalt
Date: 03/27/2005 17:10:09
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Hi
OK I=B9ve been trying to sniff out some 64mb simms for the BeBox & the Qube 2
and stumbled across this auction in the states:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3D4611&item=3D6753550002=
&
rd=3D1
He says that this ram is 3.3 or 5 volts compatible.
Can anybody tell me does it make a difference if ram is 4k or 2k refresh fo=
r
a Qube 2?
Regards
Mick Bramley
> Hi Mick,
>=20
> No offence taken!
>=20
> I did add they may not work on everyone's Qube, at the moment, th=
ere
> only seems to be one buyer interested. If they don't sell I'll maybe put =
them
> up for grabs here for the price of postage! There'll be another 12 pieces
> available in the near future, they are coming out of some de-commissioned
> equipment at work - I hate throwing stuff away!
>=20
> I did a bit more searching this afternoon and found a few posts
> (non-Qube related) that say 5v mem will indeed work at 3.3v with no probl=
em,
> however the general opinion seems to be not to mix 5v & 3.3v modules. I'm
> assuming the Sun ram would be 3.3v so maybe adding a 5v would not work, b=
ut
> I'm only guessing here...
>=20
> Kind Regards,
> Pete.
>=20
> At 16:58 26/03/2005, Michael Bramley wrote:
>> Hi Pete
>>=20
>> Sorry I didn=B9t realise it was your auction, no offence meant.
>>=20
>> IMHO you did mention in the auction that they are 5v simms, I=B9d probably=
put
>> a Caveat Emptor in there as an addition, also mention the fact that they=
are
>> supposed to use 3.3v and you verified this having measured your Qube 2 w=
ith a
>> volt meter, however that said, they do appear to work.
>>=20
>> The reason 5v simms seem to work is anybody's guess.
>>=20
>> Regards
>> Mick Bramley
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> Hi All,
>>=20
>> OK, I was bored today anyway :-) I just googled for the pin-out =
for a
>> 72 pin simm and dismantled one of the Qube2s. Pin 1 is VSS (Ground) and =
pin
>> 10 is VCC. Measuring between these with the Qube2 running gives me a vol=
tage
>> of 3.3v. This now raises two issues - why do 5v simms work and should I =
pull
>> the auctions while there is still time?
>>=20
>> Kind Regards,
>> Pete.
>>=20
>> At 12:21 26/03/2005, Andreas Fuchs wrote:
>> Hi
>>=20
>> Pretty shure also we are using 5v Simms in one Qube2 and three RAQ's wit=
hout
>> having any problems.
>> I'll open the qube tonight to confirm the type of Simm i'm using.
>>=20
>> =20
>> Andreas
>>=20
>> =20
>>=20
>>=20
> Von: port-cobalt-owner@NetBSD.org [mailto:port-cobalt-owner@NetBSD.org] I=
m
> Auftrag von Michael Bramley
> Gesendet: Samstag, 26. M=E4rz 2005 11:28
> An: port-cobalt@netbsd.org
> Betreff: Cobalt Qube 2 Memory Simms
>=20
> Hi
>=20
> In my Cobalt Qube 2 I=B9ve been using 2 x 72pin EDO 5v Simms for about 7 mo=
nths
> with no problems at all, I know they=B9re 5v because I got the Cobalt with
> little memory in it and had these things lying round out of an old Mac an=
d put
> them in it, now I know it=B9s supposed to use 3.3v but I figured that as th=
e
> Simms are under volted that worst case scenario would be the Qube would n=
ot
> boot or if it did boot it would probably crash later on, it does not, it =
works
> fine.
>=20
> I always figured I=B9d not bother to mention this as this was maybe a fluke=
or
> something, however some guy is selling a few simms on eBay in the UK for =
Raq 2
> & Qube 2=B9s telling you they are 5v and they work fine.
>=20
> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3D1484&item=3D576230=
6984&
> rd=3D1=20
> <http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3D1484&it=
em=3D57
> 62306984&rd=3D1> <
> <http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;category=3D1484&am=
p;amp
> ;item=3D5762306984&amp;rd=3D1>
> ">http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3D1484&i=
tem=3D5
> 762306984&rd=3D1>
> <http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3D1484&it=
em=3D57
> 62306984&rd=3D1>
> <http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;category=3D1484&am=
p;amp
> ;item=3D5762306984&amp;rd=3D1>
>=20
> I=B9ve just bought a BeBox dual 133 and was going to move the memory out of=
the
> Qube 2 into the BeBox and get some more ram for the Qube 64mb now was
> considering going to 128 (any advantage in doing this?, I only use it as =
a
> file server running NetBSD 1.6.1 but I=B9m going to 2.0 soon), I was going =
to
> try and get some 3.3 EDO 72pin simms but now this fluke of mine and the f=
act
> this guy says it works as got me thinking.
>=20
> Anybody else here using 5v simms in a Qube 2 or a Raq 2?
>=20
> Do FPM simms work in Qube 2=B9s?
>=20
> I know these questions have been asked before, Yes I=B9ve read the manual a=
nd
> the mail list archives & Googled this to death but everybody says 3.3v
> un-buffered EDO, I=B9m 100% using 5v and so is this guy, unless he=B9s
> bulls*&%^ng.
>=20
> Thanks
> Mick Bramley
>=20
>=20
>=20
> --
> When a man sits with a pretty girl for an hour, it seems like a minute.
> But let him sit on a hot stove for a minute, and it's longer than any
> hour. That's relativity. =AD Albert Einstein
>=20
--
When a man sits with a pretty girl for an hour, it seems like a minute.
But let him sit on a hot stove for a minute, and it's longer than any
hour. That's relativity. =AD Albert Einstein
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<FONT FACE=3D"Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN STYLE=3D'font-size:12.0px'>Hi<BR=
>
<BR>
OK I’ve been trying to sniff out some 64mb simms for the BeBox & =
the Qube 2 and stumbled across this auction in the states:<BR>
<BR>
<a href=3D"http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3D4611&item=3D6=
753550002&rd=3D1">http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3D4=
611&item=3D6753550002&rd=3D1</a><BR>
<BR>
He says that this ram is 3.3 or 5 volts compatible.<BR>
<BR>
Can anybody tell me does it make a difference if ram is 4k or 2k refresh fo=
r a Qube 2?<BR>
<BR>
Regards<BR>
Mick Bramley<BR>
<BR>
</SPAN></FONT><BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN STYL=
E=3D'font-size:12.0px'>Hi Mick,<BR>
<BR>
No offence taken!<BR>
<BR>
I did add they may not work=
on everyone's Qube, at the moment, there only seems to be one buyer interes=
ted. If they don't sell I'll maybe put them up for grabs here for the price =
of postage! There'll be another 12 pieces available in the near future, they=
are coming out of some de-commissioned equipment at work - I hate throwing =
stuff away!<BR>
<BR>
I did a bit more searching =
this afternoon and found a few posts (non-Qube related) that say 5v mem will=
indeed work at 3.3v with no problem, however the general opinion seems to b=
e not to mix 5v & 3.3v modules. I'm assuming the Sun ram would be 3.3v s=
o maybe adding a 5v would not work, but I'm only guessing here...<BR>
<BR>
Kind Regards,<BR>
Pete.<BR>
<BR>
At 16:58 26/03/2005, Michael Bramley wrote:<BR>
</SPAN></FONT><BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN STYL=
E=3D'font-size:12.0px'>Hi Pete<BR>
<BR>
Sorry I didn’t realise it was your auction, no offence meant.<BR>
<BR>
IMHO you did mention in the auction that they are 5v simms, I’d proba=
bly put a Caveat Emptor in there as an addition, also mention the fact that =
they are supposed to use 3.3v and you verified this having measured your Qub=
e 2 with a volt meter, however that said, they do appear to work.<BR>
<BR>
The reason 5v simms seem to work is anybody's guess.<BR>
<BR>
Regards<BR>
Mick Bramley<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
Hi All,<BR>
<BR>
OK, I was bored today anywa=
y :-) I just googled for the pin-out for a 72 pin simm and dismantled one of=
the Qube2s. Pin 1 is VSS (Ground) and pin 10 is VCC. Measuring between thes=
e with the Qube2 running gives me a voltage of 3.3v. This now raises two iss=
ues - why do 5v simms work and should I pull the auctions while there is sti=
ll time?<BR>
<BR>
Kind Regards,<BR>
Pete.<BR>
<BR>
At 12:21 26/03/2005, Andreas Fuchs wrote:<BR>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF">Hi<BR>
</FONT><BR>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF">Pretty shure also we are using 5v Simms in one Qube2 =
and three RAQ's without having any problems.<BR>
I'll open the qube tonight to confirm the type of Simm i'm using.<BR>
</FONT><BR>
<BR>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF">Andreas<BR>
</FONT><BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
</SPAN></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><SPAN STYLE=3D'font-size:12.0px'><FONT FACE=3D"Tahom=
a">Von:</FONT><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"> port-cobalt-owner@NetB=
SD.org [<a href=3D"mailto:port-cobalt-owner@NetBSD.org]">mailto:port-cobalt-ow=
ner@NetBSD.org]</a> Im Auftrag von Michael Bramley<BR>
Gesendet: Samstag, 26. März 2005 11:28<BR>
An: port-cobalt@netbsd.org<BR>
Betreff: Cobalt Qube 2 Memory Simms<BR>
<BR>
Hi<BR>
<BR>
In my Cobalt Qube 2 I’ve been using 2 x 72pin EDO 5v Simms for about =
7 months with no problems at all, I know they’re 5v because I got the =
Cobalt with little memory in it and had these things lying round out of an o=
ld Mac and put them in it, now I know it’s supposed to use 3.3v but I =
figured that as the Simms are under volted that worst case scenario would be=
the Qube would not boot or if it did boot it would probably crash later on,=
it does not, it works fine.<BR>
<BR>
I always figured I’d not bother to mention this as this was maybe a f=
luke or something, however some guy is selling a few simms on eBay in the UK=
for Raq 2 & Qube 2’s telling you they are 5v and they work fine.<=
BR>
<BR>
<a href=3D"http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3D1484&item=
=3D5762306984&rd=3D1">http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&catego=
ry=3D1484&item=3D5762306984&rd=3D1</a> <a href=3D"http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/e=
BayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3D1484&item=3D5762306984&rd=3D1"><ht=
tp://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;category=3D1484&amp;=
item=3D5762306984&amp;rd=3D1></a> < <a href=3D"http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/=
eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;category=3D1484&amp;item=3D5762306984&amp=
;rd=3D1"><http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;amp;categ=
ory=3D1484&amp;amp;item=3D5762306984&amp;amp;rd=3D1></a> <a href=3D"http:=
//cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3D1484&item=3D576230=
6984&rd=3D1>">http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;cate=
gory=3D1484&amp;item=3D5762306984&amp;rd=3D1></a> <a href=3D"http://cgi.e=
bay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;category=3D1484&amp;item=3D57623=
06984&amp;rd=3D1"><http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&=
amp;amp;category=3D1484&amp;amp;item=3D5762306984&amp;amp;rd=3D1></a> &=
nbsp;<BR>
<BR>
I’ve just bought a BeBox dual 133 and was going to move the memory ou=
t of the Qube 2 into the BeBox and get some more ram for the Qube 64mb now w=
as considering going to 128 (any advantage in doing this?, I only use it as =
a file server running NetBSD 1.6.1 but I’m going to 2.0 soon), I was g=
oing to try and get some 3.3 EDO 72pin simms but now this fluke of mine and =
the fact this guy says it works as got me thinking.<BR>
<BR>
Anybody else here using 5v simms in a Qube 2 or a Raq 2?<BR>
<BR>
Do FPM simms work in Qube 2’s?<BR>
<BR>
I know these questions have been asked before, Yes I’ve read the manu=
al and the mail list archives & Googled this to death but everybody says=
3.3v un-buffered EDO, I’m 100% using 5v and so is this guy, unless he=
’s bulls*&%^ng.<BR>
<BR>
Thanks<BR>
Mick Bramley<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
--<BR>
When a man sits with a pretty girl for an hour, it seems like a minute. <BR=
>
But let him sit on a hot stove for a minute, and it's longer than any <BR>
hour. That's relativity. – Albert Einstein<BR>
<BR>
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--<BR>
When a man sits with a pretty girl for an hour, it seems like a minute. <BR=
>
But let him sit on a hot stove for a minute, and it's longer than any <BR>
hour. That's relativity. – Albert Einstein<BR>
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