Subject: Re: Cobalt Qube 2 Memory Simms again..
To: Pete Rushmere <pete@rushmere.org>
From: Michael Bramley <brams@mac.com>
List: port-cobalt
Date: 03/26/2005 18:58:36
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Hi Pete
Sorry I didn=B9t realise it was your auction, no offence meant.
IMHO you did mention in the auction that they are 5v simms, I=B9d probably pu=
t
a Caveat Emptor in there as an addition, also mention the fact that they ar=
e
supposed to use 3.3v and you verified this having measured your Qube 2 with
a volt meter, however that said, they do appear to work.
The reason 5v simms seem to work is anybody's guess.
Regards
Mick Bramley
> Hi All,
>=20
> OK, I was bored today anyway :-) I just googled for the pin-out f=
or a
> 72 pin simm and dismantled one of the Qube2s. Pin 1 is VSS (Ground) and p=
in 10
> is VCC. Measuring between these with the Qube2 running gives me a voltage=
of
> 3.3v. This now raises two issues - why do 5v simms work and should I pull=
the
> auctions while there is still time?
>=20
> Kind Regards,
> Pete.
>=20
> At 12:21 26/03/2005, Andreas Fuchs wrote:
>> Hi
>> =20
>> Pretty shure also we are using 5v Simms in one Qube2 and three RAQ's wit=
hout
>> having any problems.
>> I'll open the qube tonight to confirm the type of Simm i'm using.
>> =20
>> =20
>> Andreas
>> =20
>> =20
>>=20
>>=20
>> Von: port-cobalt-owner@NetBSD.org [mailto:port-cobalt-owner@NetBSD.org] =
Im
>> Auftrag von Michael Bramley
>> Gesendet: Samstag, 26. M=E4rz 2005 11:28
>> An: port-cobalt@netbsd.org
>> Betreff: Cobalt Qube 2 Memory Simms
>>=20
>> Hi
>>=20
>> In my Cobalt Qube 2 I=B9ve been using 2 x 72pin EDO 5v Simms for about 7 m=
onths
>> with no problems at all, I know they=B9re 5v because I got the Cobalt with
>> little memory in it and had these things lying round out of an old Mac a=
nd
>> put them in it, now I know it=B9s supposed to use 3.3v but I figured that =
as
>> the Simms are under volted that worst case scenario would be the Qube wo=
uld
>> not boot or if it did boot it would probably crash later on, it does not=
, it
>> works fine.
>>=20
>> I always figured I=B9d not bother to mention this as this was maybe a fluk=
e or
>> something, however some guy is selling a few simms on eBay in the UK for=
Raq
>> 2 & Qube 2=B9s telling you they are 5v and they work fine.
>>=20
>> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3D1484&item=3D57623=
06984
>> &rd=3D1=20
>> <http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3D1484&i=
tem=3D5
>> 762306984&rd=3D1>
>>=20
>> I=B9ve just bought a BeBox dual 133 and was going to move the memory out o=
f the
>> Qube 2 into the BeBox and get some more ram for the Qube 64mb now was
>> considering going to 128 (any advantage in doing this?, I only use it as=
a
>> file server running NetBSD 1.6.1 but I=B9m going to 2.0 soon), I was going=
to
>> try and get some 3.3 EDO 72pin simms but now this fluke of mine and the =
fact
>> this guy says it works as got me thinking.
>>=20
>> Anybody else here using 5v simms in a Qube 2 or a Raq 2?
>>=20
>> Do FPM simms work in Qube 2=B9s?
>>=20
>> I know these questions have been asked before, Yes I=B9ve read the manual =
and
>> the mail list archives & Googled this to death but everybody says 3.3v
>> un-buffered EDO, I=B9m 100% using 5v and so is this guy, unless he=B9s
>> bulls*&%^ng.
>>=20
>> Thanks
>> Mick Bramley
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<FONT FACE="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:12.0px'>Hi Pete<BR>
<BR>
Sorry I didn’t realise it was your auction, no offence meant.<BR>
<BR>
IMHO you did mention in the auction that they are 5v simms, I’d probably put a Caveat Emptor in there as an addition, also mention the fact that they are supposed to use 3.3v and you verified this having measured your Qube 2 with a volt meter, however that said, they do appear to work.<BR>
<BR>
The reason 5v simms seem to work is anybody's guess.<BR>
<BR>
Regards<BR>
Mick Bramley<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
</SPAN></FONT><BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:12.0px'>Hi All,<BR>
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OK, I was bored today anyway :-) I just googled for the pin-out for a 72 pin simm and dismantled one of the Qube2s. Pin 1 is VSS (Ground) and pin 10 is VCC. Measuring between these with the Qube2 running gives me a voltage of 3.3v. This now raises two issues - why do 5v simms work and should I pull the auctions while there is still time?<BR>
<BR>
Kind Regards,<BR>
Pete.<BR>
<BR>
At 12:21 26/03/2005, Andreas Fuchs wrote:<BR>
</SPAN></FONT><BLOCKQUOTE><SPAN STYLE='font-size:12.0px'><FONT COLOR="#0000FF"><FONT FACE="Arial">Hi<BR>
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</FONT><FONT COLOR="#0000FF"><FONT FACE="Arial">Pretty shure also we are using 5v Simms in one Qube2 and three RAQ's without having any problems.<BR>
I'll open the qube tonight to confirm the type of Simm i'm using.<BR>
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</FONT><FONT COLOR="#0000FF"><FONT FACE="Arial">Andreas<BR>
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<HR ALIGN=CENTER SIZE="3" WIDTH="100%"></FONT><FONT FACE="Tahoma"><B>Von:</B> port-cobalt-owner@NetBSD.org [<a href="mailto:port-cobalt-owner@NetBSD.org]">mailto:port-cobalt-owner@NetBSD.org]</a> <B>Im Auftrag von </B>Michael Bramley<BR>
<B>Gesendet:</B> Samstag, 26. März 2005 11:28<BR>
<B>An:</B> port-cobalt@netbsd.org<BR>
<B>Betreff:</B> Cobalt Qube 2 Memory Simms<BR>
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Hi<BR>
<BR>
In my Cobalt Qube 2 I’ve been using 2 x 72pin EDO 5v Simms for about 7 months with no problems at all, I know they’re 5v because I got the Cobalt with little memory in it and had these things lying round out of an old Mac and put them in it, now I know it’s supposed to use 3.3v but I figured that as the Simms are under volted that worst case scenario would be the Qube would not boot or if it did boot it would probably crash later on, it does not, it works fine.<BR>
<BR>
I always figured I’d not bother to mention this as this was maybe a fluke or something, however some guy is selling a few simms on eBay in the UK for Raq 2 & Qube 2’s telling you they are 5v and they work fine.<BR>
<BR>
<a href="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1484&item=5762306984&rd=1">http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1484&item=5762306984&rd=1</a> <a href="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1484&item=5762306984&rd=1"><http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;category=1484&amp;item=5762306984&amp;rd=1></a> <BR>
<BR>
I’ve just bought a BeBox dual 133 and was going to move the memory out of the Qube 2 into the BeBox and get some more ram for the Qube 64mb now was considering going to 128 (any advantage in doing this?, I only use it as a file server running NetBSD 1.6.1 but I’m going to 2.0 soon), I was going to try and get some 3.3 EDO 72pin simms but now this fluke of mine and the fact this guy says it works as got me thinking.<BR>
<BR>
Anybody else here using 5v simms in a Qube 2 or a Raq 2?<BR>
<BR>
Do FPM simms work in Qube 2’s?<BR>
<BR>
I know these questions have been asked before, Yes I’ve read the manual and the mail list archives & Googled this to death but everybody says 3.3v un-buffered EDO, I’m 100% using 5v and so is this guy, unless he’s bulls*&%^ng.<BR>
<BR>
Thanks<BR>
Mick Bramley<BR>
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When a man sits with a pretty girl for an hour, it seems like a minute. <BR>
But let him sit on a hot stove for a minute, and it's longer than any <BR>
hour. That's relativity. – Albert Einstein<BR>
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