Subject: Re: NetBSD_1.1/atari expieriences
To: None <goettsch@informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
From: Leo Weppelman <leo@wau.mis.ah.nl>
List: port-atari
Date: 11/27/1995 14:50:00
Hi Helmar,

> 
> The last two days I've made many GOOD expierences with NetBSD
> and so I wish to thank Leo for the much porting work and also
> my unknown follow-up ALPHA-tester :-). Who was it ?
Thomas Gerner was your follow-up. If I am right you gave him the 18th(!)
test kernel yourself ;-) About an equal number of tests were needed to
get to the current driver.... and it is still not as I want it to be.

> Anyway now it works and I have a fast (?) and powerfull UNIX-OS
> on my Falcon. 
Question mark noted ;-)
> 
> Also I was able to solve some nerving problems I mentioned in my
> last mail (hope you got it, Leo):
> 
> 	stty (unable to use BACKSPACE and DELETE keys)
> 	solution is:	stty sane
> After that command 'erase' is set on BACKSPACE-key automatically.
> So one must have 'stty sane' in his .login (.profile) before
> changing other correcting keys.
I think setting the terminal type in /etc/ttys also helps you a bit. As
an aside, setting 'set -o vi' in your .profile makes life a bit easier too.

> 
> 	pppd - works at once and fine 
> command syntax is exactly like in MiNT-KGMD and my chat-script
> is also from there.  Long live the compatibility of UNIX ;-) !
> Only the device name is different, it is /dev/mdm02 on Falcon;
> therefore you got a ppp-connection with
> 	pppd connect 'chat -f scriptfile.chat' mdm02 38400
Shouldn't you add something like crtscts too? I don't like to rely on
software handshaking.

> (I suggest all on port-atari know how ppp works, if someone not
> I will mail him)
> All usual net-cmds work (ping,traceroute,rsh,ftp,telnet) fine
> except rlogin --> see my mail 'Bug Reports 1'.
I usually use telnet, but I'll try rlogin tonight.
> 
> What I miss is a overall description of the contents of several
> system directories. Although I am sysadmin of several SUNs and HPs
> I recognize many different directories on NetBSD, which I don't
> know:
> /	altroot  sbin     stand 	(why /bin not -> /usr/bin ?)
> /usr/	libdata	 libexec  obj    sbin
I followed Waldi's suggestion and took a look at the smm pages. They
are interesting to read... You might like to know that these manuals are
included in the misc-set.

> 
> At the moment I build my first own kernel according to Leo's
> description in his mail 'FAQ 2'	- since 5 o'clock !!
> Alone the 'make depend' longs 45 minutes. Since that 'make' runs
> about THREE hours. As it compiles 'netinet/tcp_input.c' at the moment,
> I suppose it will run another 5 hours ! Is that normal ?
I usually start these kind of things when I'm going to bed or have other
things to do ;-) I remember the complete make taking about 3 hours on my
TT.

Leo.