What does "No available ptys" (or similar) mean? I get this error when I do "startx" -- -Ian aka Lennier Acorn Computers, the best in the world http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hawk/ BaBe - Women's human rights organisation in Croatia http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hawk/babe/ Preferences: Cats, Zap, Purple, Aspie