On Sat, 8 Jan 2000, [ISO-8859-1] Kolbj=F8rn Barmen wrote:

> > Unix adventures? I already installed a dozen of Linux systems... but I
> > never had to trouble around with "vi" of any of them... Debian has "ae"=
,
> > very simple, but works. RedHat don't need one cause it runs via X11 rig=
ht
> > after installing it.
>=20
> Heh, dream on. It is abit like saying you dont need to know how to edit
> user-startup or dont need to know what WBStartup is for to install AmigaO=
S.
>=20
=09If you have a non vi editor that enables you to edit all the
=09startup files and configure the system, then you can get a
=09system installed and running, and use it while learning more
=09about NetBSD, including vi.

> > Well but its important to get on that, cause I write an article for an
> > Amiga magazine and I am quite sure there are some of such "lamers" lurk=
ing
> > around wanting to try NetBSD... so if its not for them, I probably shou=
ld
> > clearly say so?=20
>=20
> Yes, IMHO.
> No point in dozens of Joe Does trying to install something they would not
> know how to use anyways, and when they do they start bugging lists like=
=20
> this for all sorts of trivial questions and malformed oppinions, such
> as your "I dont want to learn vi" messages here :)

=09But you also discourage those who are interested and capable of
=09learning more, as they will pick a system which seems easier
=09to install on which to learn.

=09We should have reasonable FAQs online to answer people's question.
=09(We are currently debating a simple editor in the base system on
=09current-users@,=09which is why I haven't added this question :)

=09_I_ would never use such an editor, but I know several people
=09(quite intelligent and capable of otherwise setting up a system)
=09who would find it a benefit.

=09If you do not want Joe Doe trying to install NetBSD, then you
=09can ignore them, but the more people who know about NetBSD, the
=09more likely people who _will_ benefit from it will know and
=09try it - a strong "NetBSD is for experts only" message can hurt
=09that. A better message is "NetBSD is the best for experts" :)

=09=09David/absolute