Subject: RE: Multia won't boot with IDE drive plugged in
To: 'Charles Fultz' <fultz@cs.purdue.edu>
From: David Woyciesjes <DAW@yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu>
List: port-alpha
Date: 05/10/2001 14:41:20
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-> Since upgrading my firmware to "BL5 V3.8-3 built on Aug 10 
-> 1995" power
-> is no longer supplied to my IDE drives.  I've tried 3 
-> different drives
-> and two different cables, and no combination works. Before 
-> upgrading I
-> at least got power to the IDE drive, but when booting in SRM it would
-> never fully go into SRM, just stopping after the memory check.
	Hmmm. Okay, you probably checked out some of these items already,
but I'm writing this list, more for my own thought process...

1. You're using a laptop IDE HDD, and connecting to the IDE header on the
board, right next to the floppy connector.
2. On those HDDs, there are (from what I've seen) four pins, seperated by a
space from the other 40 pins. Those (the 4 lonely pins) do not connect to
anything in the Multia. The IDE ribbon cable isn't big enough for that.
3. Pin 1 on the HDD is towards those four seperate pins, and pin 1 on the
mainboard is towards the floppy connector.
4. Does hitting [Return] or any other key combo bring SRM console to it's
senses?
5. Is the battery good or new?
6. When you wnet to switch to SRM, which option in Arc Console did you
choose?
(OpenVMS, DigitalUnix, whatever)
7. Try removing all accesories and drives (except for the floppy and IDE
HDD).
8. Try removing the SCSI riser card.
9. Try reflashing the firmware using the fail-safe loader.
10. Is it suffereing from Heat Death Syndrome? (last resort kinda stuff
here)
	a. Is it the original fan? If so, cut off the little red resistor on
the fan, there should be two yellow wires going to that resistor. This will
make the fan run at full speed all the time, and keep the Multia cooler. Of
course, you can also just replace the fan.
	b. On the underside of the mainboard, with the back of it to the
left, there is a chip labelled "E215". What condition is that in? That's the
part that suffers/causes the dreaded "Heat Death Syndrome".

Hopefully this will help in some manner...

---   David A Woyciesjes
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-> -----Original Message-----
-> From: Charles Fultz [mailto:fultz@cs.purdue.edu]
-> Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 8:49 AM
-> To: David Woyciesjes
-> Subject: Re: Multia won't boot with IDE drive plugged in 
-> 
-> 
-> > -> but will not provide power to the IDE drive.  And, I 
-> > -> get SCSI errors now.  I'm not sure which version
-> > -> the Multia reports, as I'm not at it right now.
-> > -> Any ideas.
-> > -> 
-> > Well, you won't see the IDE drive when you boot to the 
-> > SRM console, and type "show dev". For whatever reason,
-> > DEC didn't tell the SRM firmware about IDE drives.
-> > To check that the drive is seen, type "arc" at the >>> 
-> > prompt. That will start up the Arc console firmware.
-> > Go to the Supplementary Menu, then select Display
-> > Hardware Configuration. That should display 
-> > something like...
-> > "multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)    RAW"
-> 
-> I do not see any thing listed of that nature.
-> I do see the listing for the floppy drive and SCSI CD-ROM drive.
-> 
-> Since upgrading my firmware to "BL5 V3.8-3 built on Aug 10 
-> 1995" power is no longer supplied to my IDE drives.
-> I've tried 3 different drives and two different cables,
-> and no combination works. Before upgrading I at least
-> got power to the IDE drive, but when booting in SRM it would
-> never fully go into SRM, just stopping after the memory check.
-> 
-> > It may something else beides RAW for you. Arc Console doesn't
-> > understand ffs filesystems. Now you can go to the Set Up 
-> > The System option, then select Switch to OpenVMS Or
-> > Digital Unix Console. On the next screen,
-> > select Digital Unix. Now you can reboot into SRM, boot the 
-> > NetBSD install floppy, and have fun!
-> > Let me know if you need more help...
-> 
-> Yes, I still need help.
-> 
-> Thanks,
-> Charles Fultz
-> fultz
->