Subject: Re: spamwar rules of engagement [ was printer supplies ]
To: Greg A. Woods <>
From: Todd Vierling <>
List: port-alpha
Date: 11/04/2000 11:10:35
On Sat, 4 Nov 2000, Greg A. Woods wrote:

: (and I regularly see at least two or three per day on average).  Most of
: them would have been stopped by employing the various MAPS RBLs (and
: IIRC they all would have been blocked if the ORBS RBL had been added to
: the mix).

Although ORBS is an example of dropping a bomb on a crowded building because
your enemy is somewhere inside it.  ORBS blocks too many legitimate mailers
out of "retaliation" towards networks that don't allow ORBS probes past
their border routers.

ORBS needs to die for that reason alone (and there are other reasons....).

-- Todd Vierling <>  *
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