Subject: Re: Netbsd for dec 3k with no floppy
To: None <,,>
From: Ross Harvey <>
List: port-alpha
Date: 04/27/2000 18:07:32
> From: Ted Sikora <>
> Mikko Lehtonen wrote:
> > 
> >         Hello
> > 
> > So, I have a dec 3000 (alpha, of course) and it doesn't have floppy drive,
> > which gives me a bit of a problem, I could download an iso image and try
> > to boot from it, but some images I found said, that they are only i386
> > bootable. I'm unsure about installing over LAN, especially because my dec
> > 3000 has OpenVMS for OS currently. Or are there some setup program for
> > OpenVMS included in the cd-iso? (and a good help file how to do it. I
> > really don't know how to use vms.)
> > 
> make a /boot directory in your directory of choice and put cdhdtape
> there then put the alpha distribution there or not then:
> mkisofs -b boot/cdhdtape -c boot/boot.catalog -o bootcd.iso .
> This makes the iso image then do the following to burn:
> cdrecord -scanbus
> add the results to dev below then:
> cdrecord -v speed=2 dev=0,0,0  -data  bootcd.iso
> That's it you now have a bootable alpha cd.
> Nero under Win works too just like in the NetBSD/Alpha FAQ.
> Works with OpenBSD too just substitute floppy26.fs for cdhdtape.
> --
> Ted Sikora
> Jtl Development Group 

Err, umm, hmm .. no .. don't do that. (That doesn't really work, right?!)

It looks like a mixture of the incantations for x86 and for alpha, and may
produce spotted purple flame-breathing frogs or some other sorcerer's
apprentice mistake.

The cdhdtape image is already a bootable image if written directly to the
CD, it just isn't an iso9660. The El Torito (x86-only, PeeCee-only) boot
stuff is, AFAIK, completely ignored by alpha...after all, you wouldn't even
want it to work, as it would prevent you from making a dual-boot CD.  Or
am I completely on drugs?

Now, if he already has a netbsd system up and running nicely .. especially
if it's an alpha system, then there is a way to create a bootable iso9660
CD, documented in man 8, and with which I will be happy to help.

But I don't think that's what he is attempting to do. If he does have a
NetBSD CD burner (I do, it works great, yay!) then I say the command will
look something like:

	% cdrecord speed=2 dev=/dev/rcd0d cdhdtape