Subject: Re: problems with kde, xorg, and (perhaps) 4.0beta2
To: Steven M. Bellovin <>
From: David Brownlee <>
List: pkgsrc-users
Date: 04/01/2007 22:08:56
On Sun, 1 Apr 2007, Steven M. Bellovin wrote:

> On Sun, 1 Apr 2007 14:15:46 -0400
> "Blair Sadewitz" <> wrote:
>> A while back I filed a PR about the /tmp/.ICE-unix thing.  The
>> workaround is actually the solution AFAIK; see x11/kdelibs3/MESSAGE.
> I moved my code to do that to /etc/rc.conf.d/kdm.  Perhaps it should be
> in /etc/rc.d/kdm?
>> Re: TLS; I don't know if there's an option for this, but maybe you
>> could use gnutls instead?
> I have no idea how to do that with kde.
>> Modular Xorg in pkgsrc nearing the point where you might consider
>> using it in production; have you considered an upgrade path yet?
> It doesn't support X servers yet, a requirement for that machine.  Nor
> is it a machine I use (and hence can work around problems with), so I'm
> unwilling to put experimental software on it.

 	Its been supporting X servers for a while now - I'm running
 	xf86-video-ati on my Thinkpad T41p, an Asus 9600 based laptop
 	and a shuttle with a 9550, xf86-video-vesa on an X700 based
 	laptop, and xf86-video-i810 on an old i810 dell desktop.

 	What its lacked has been a meta package to pull in all the
 	drivers, but joerg added meta-pkgs/modular-xorg-drivers :)

 	Be warned, the ati driver at least leaves the console with
 	"extremely dark grey on black text" on exit, though the
 	vesa driver is better behaved.

 	KDE3 & freevo also seem happy, and just ran a quick scratch
 	test of Kmail and it seemed happy to send over TLS (I use
 	a different MUA normally)

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