Subject: Re: gettext-tools without gettext-libs dependency on Linux
To: None <>
From: Jeremy C. Reed <>
List: pkgsrc-users
Date: 04/18/2006 14:00:51
On Tue, 18 Apr 2006 wrote:

> On Fri, Apr 14, 2006 at 12:46:38AM -0700, Jeremy C. Reed wrote:
> > I don't want to install any libintl or intl.h. I already have this with my 
> > GLIBC. (This is on Linux.)
> The problem is that the glibc version might not be in sync with gettext,
> just like the NetBSD libintl is not always compatible with
> gettext-tools. f you have a native libintl, you should really, really
> have native gettext-tools as well.

It is a little confusing in my case. I do not have a "native" glibc. In 
fact, every single component is installed via pkgsrc and maintained with 
pkg_install tools.

> > Building gettext-tools fails when building .libs/msginit with:
> > 
> > msginit-msginit.o(.text+0x23d): In function `main':
> > : undefined reference to `_nl_locale_name'
> > 
> > This is defined in localename.o and
> The patch removes *redundant* linkage. It also avoids a horrible abuse
> of libtool infrastructure, which gave me quite a few head aches on
> various systems.
> In short, I'd prefer not to mess with this area, it can break too much.

I do not know of any Linux operating systems that ship or provide any 
libintl or intl.h from the gettext suite.

It is normal and expected that Linux systems get this from glibc. (They do 
have packages from gettext for the tools or other add-ons though.)

Does anyone know of any Linux that uses gettext to provide libintl or 

I have been using glibc to provide this (via pkgsrc-wip packages and some 
other custom pkgsrc stuff) for a couple years.

Also there have been a few reports from pkgsrc users on Linux where they 
documented how there were conflicts caused by using gettext-provided (and 
iconv) libraries with their native glibc. I think there may be some PRs 
about this too. I don't know if this still matters since this was before 
gettext was updated in pkgsrc.

Maybe we can have some compromise by providing some option for your 
gettext packages.

 Jeremy C. Reed

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