Subject: Re: CVS commit: pkgsrc/pkgtools/pkg_install/files
To: Alistair Crooks <agc@pkgsrc.org>
From: Dieter Baron <dillo@danbala.tuwien.ac.at>
List: pkgsrc-changes
Date: 06/10/2005 12:36:47
In article <20050610101848.GM25559@nef.pbox.org> Alistair wrote:
: On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 07:22:14AM +0000, Johnny C. Lam wrote:
: > On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 07:54:16AM +0100, Alistair Crooks wrote:
: > > On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 03:49:08AM +0000, Johnny C. Lam wrote:
: > > > On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 01:37:21AM +0000, Dan McMahill wrote:
: > > > > 
: > > > > Log Message:
: > > > > add autoconf test for missing (like in openbsd-3.6) or broken (like
: > > > > in AIX-4.3.2) PRIu64.  If it is missing or broken, provide one.  Should
: > > > > address PR30375.  Welcome to pkg_install-20050607
: > > > 
: > > > This should *not* have caused a version bump.  There is *no* functional
: > > > change here.  Please back out the version bump.
: > > 
: > > What's the problem with the version bump? I think it should be there -
: > > that way, we can identify whether it will work on AIX and OpenBSD. Also,
: > > the way the dependencies work within pkgsrc means that the pseudo-date
: > > version should be bumped whenever anything changes in pkg_install (it
: > > used to be calculated directly from CVS Ids, after all).
: > 
: > This fix falls under the "fix broken compile on platform X" and has
: > historically never led to a version bump.  On systems that already
: > have pkg_install-20050530 installed, there is no difference between
: > it and a pkg_install with Dan's fix.  On OpenBSD and AIX, since it
: > wasn't possible to install pkg_install-20050530 prior to Dan's fix,
: > the only relevant fact is that it's possible to install it now with
: > an updated pkgsrc tree.

: Indeed.

: All of which is a perfectly valid reason to bump the version number.

  Please elaborate.  Why is that a reason to bump the version?  Why is
it useful to have two identical packages with different version
numbers?

: It used to be bumped automatically whenever any source file under
: pkg_install was checked in, and I really can't see what the problem is
: to do exactly the same thing here.

: What is the limitation or restriction on bumping the version number?

  If the version number is bumped, the installed version is no longer
up-to-date, as indicated by pkg_chk or the bulk build.  This means
many people will rebuild it for exactly zeor gain.  Plus, since
pkg_install installs into /usr (at least on NetBSD), which is
read-only on sandboxed bulk builds, this has to be done manually.

  This causes extra work for administrators.  If there is no gain, I
would say this was best avoided.

					yours,
					dillo