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pkgsrc-2008Q1 NetBSD 3.1/x86_64 2008-05-02 16:21
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Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 16:49:00 GMT
From: Charlie Root <root%asim.lip6.fr@localhost>
Subject: pkgsrc-2008Q1 NetBSD 3.1/x86_64 2008-05-02 16:21
To: bouyer%asim.lip6.fr@localhost
pkgsrc bulk build report
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NetBSD 3.1/x86_64
Compiler: gcc
Build start: 2008-05-02 16:21
Build end: 2008-05-03 16:44
Full report:
ftp://ftp-asim.lip6.fr/outgoing/packages/x86_64/3.1/20080502.1621/meta/report.html
Machine readable version:
ftp://ftp-asim.lip6.fr/outgoing/packages/x86_64/3.1/20080502.1621/meta/report.bz2
Total number of packages: 7526
Successfully built: 6469
Failed to build: 347
Depending on failed package: 303
Explicitly broken or masked: 260
Depending on masked package: 147
Packages breaking the most other packages
Package Breaks Maintainer
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www/curl 111 recht%NetBSD.org@localhost
fonts/libfontenc 46 joerg%NetBSD.org@localhost
x11/xkbcomp 41 joerg%NetBSD.org@localhost
multimedia/xine-lib 20 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
x11/qt4-libs 17 adam%NetBSD.org@localhost
emulators/netbsd32_compat15-extras 14 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
security/openssl 10 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
multimedia/mplayer 9 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
crosspkgtools/kwacross-netbsd1-arm 7 kristerw%NetBSD.org@localhost
x11/libXprintUtil 6 joerg%NetBSD.org@localhost
Build failures
Package Breaks Maintainer
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archivers/rar pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
audio/cddb-bundle 2 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
audio/espeak 1 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
audio/exaile pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
audio/jack-devel bjs%NetBSD.org@localhost
audio/libspiff bjs%NetBSD.org@localhost
audio/libvisual-plugins pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
audio/openal 3 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
audio/sonata jfranz%bsdprojects.net@localhost
benchmarks/dbench pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
biology/mopac oishi%ims.ac.jp@localhost
chat/jabberd pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
chat/licq-gui-qt pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
chat/smirk bjs%NetBSD.org@localhost
chat/zircon frueauf%NetBSD.org@localhost
comms/asterisk riz%NetBSD.org@localhost
comms/libsyncml 1 dillo%NetBSD.org@localhost
comms/plptools pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
converters/macfork pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
converters/wv2 1 markd%NetBSD.org@localhost
cross/avr-gcc 2 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
cross/i386-cygwin32 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
cross/i386-linux pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
cross/i386-msdosdjgpp pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
cross/mipsEEel-netbsd pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
crosspkgtools/kwacross-netbsd1-arm 7 kristerw%NetBSD.org@localhost
databases/db 2 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
databases/geneweb wulf%NetBSD.org@localhost
databases/gq rh%NetBSD.org@localhost
databases/gramps drochner%NetBSD.org@localhost
databases/postgresql81-plperl jlam%NetBSD.org@localhost
databases/postgresql82-plperl adam%NetBSD.org@localhost
databases/unixodbc-DataManager pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
databases/unixodbc-ODBCConfig pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
devel/ArX recht%NetBSD.org@localhost
devel/ProjectCenter 1 rh%NetBSD.org@localhost
devel/Renaissance 1 rh%NetBSD.org@localhost
devel/atf jmmv%NetBSD.org@localhost
devel/autogen 1 kristerw%NetBSD.org@localhost
devel/bin86 1 reed%reedmedia.net@localhost
devel/boost-libs 4 jmmv%NetBSD.org@localhost
devel/dev86 1 pierrick%bs-network.net@localhost
devel/edcommon pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
devel/elfsh pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
devel/gdb pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
devel/gnustep-examples 1 rh%NetBSD.org@localhost
devel/gnustep-objc rh%NetBSD.org@localhost
devel/gnustep-objc-lf2 2 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
devel/gobo-eiffel pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
devel/gsoap
chriswareham%chriswareham.demon.co.uk@localhost
devel/gtl pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
devel/guile-gnome gdt%NetBSD.org@localhost
devel/imake joerg%NetBSD.org@localhost
devel/kscope
martijn.van.buul%gmail.com@localhost
devel/libjit pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
devel/libscsi 2 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
devel/libstatgrab 1 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
devel/makedepend joerg%NetBSD.org@localhost
devel/monodevelop kefren%NetBSD.org@localhost
devel/mph pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
devel/ode pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
devel/ogre pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
devel/py-ctypes 3 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
devel/py-expect pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
py20-expect-1.9b1nb3 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
py21-expect-1.9b1nb3 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
py22-expect-1.9b1nb3 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
devel/quilt jmmv%NetBSD.org@localhost
devel/sparse reed%reedmedia.net@localhost
devel/uno shannonjr%NetBSD.org@localhost
editors/elvis-x11
airhead%users.sourceforge.net@localhost
editors/mule kei%NetBSD.org@localhost
editors/notecase pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
editors/poedit pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
editors/xemacs-current pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
editors/xemacs-current-nox11 1 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
emulators/arcem cjep%NetBSD.org@localhost
emulators/dynamips kefren%NetBSD.org@localhost
emulators/fmsx pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
emulators/gpsim-ptyusart bouyer%NetBSD.org@localhost
emulators/mednafen wiz%NetBSD.org@localhost
emulators/netbsd32_compat15-extras 14 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
emulators/palmosemulator dsainty%NetBSD.org@localhost
emulators/sms_sdl pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
emulators/twin pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
emulators/uae kristerw%NetBSD.org@localhost
fonts/fontforge 5 adam%NetBSD.org@localhost
fonts/libfontenc 46 joerg%NetBSD.org@localhost
games/battalion pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
games/blokus pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
games/ccgo pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
games/crafty 2 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
games/glchess pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
games/omega pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
games/xpipeman pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
games/xtris opp%MuFFiN.Org@localhost
geography/garmin-utils gson%NetBSD.org@localhost
geography/gpsd 1 tsarna%NetBSD.org@localhost
geography/py-proj gdt%NetBSD.org@localhost
py23-proj-1.8.3 gdt%NetBSD.org@localhost
graphics/Cenon pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
graphics/ImageViewer 1 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
graphics/cambevao abs%NetBSD.org@localhost
graphics/cqcam pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
graphics/dia 1 jmcneill%NetBSD.org@localhost
graphics/glew pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
graphics/inkscape reed%reedmedia.net@localhost
graphics/kphotoalbum pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
graphics/libkexiv2 3 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
graphics/lprof gdt%NetBSD.org@localhost
graphics/phpsview hamajima%NetBSD.org@localhost
graphics/py-gdchart pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
graphics/py-imagingtk pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
py20-imagingtk-1.1.6 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
graphics/tuxpaint 1 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
inputmethod/sj3-dict 1 tech-pkg-ja%jp.NetBSD.org@localhost
inputmethod/unicon-im 1 rxg%NetBSD.org@localhost
lang/camlp5 1 tonio%NetBSD.org@localhost
lang/drscheme pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
lang/erlang 3 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
lang/gcc3-java 1 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
lang/gpc pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
lang/gprolog brook%nmsu.edu@localhost
lang/jamvm pancake%phreaker.net@localhost
lang/japhar pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
lang/kali pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
lang/mercury pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
lang/parrot debolaz%gmail.com@localhost
lang/pcc reed%reedmedia.net@localhost
lang/pcc-current he%NetBSD.org@localhost
lang/pforth pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
lang/pnet 3 pancake%phreaker.net@localhost
lang/scheme48 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
lang/utilisp pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
mail/courier-mta 1 jlam%pkgsrc.org@localhost
mail/gnus lha%NetBSD.org@localhost
mail/mailagent pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
mail/majordomo packages%biology.nmsu.edu@localhost
mail/spamd pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
mail/xbiff 1 joerg%NetBSD.org@localhost
math/R-Matrix mchittur%cs.nmsu.edu@localhost
math/meschach pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
math/nickle pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
math/octave-current adam%NetBSD.org@localhost
math/octave-forge 1 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
math/py-rpy pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
math/tasp-vsipl pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
math/udunits 1 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
mbone/beacon manu%NetBSD.org@localhost
mbone/sdr is%NetBSD.org@localhost
misc/Addresses 2 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
misc/chord pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
misc/gelemental pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
misc/hanzim rxg%NetBSD.org@localhost
misc/ipbt pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
misc/jitterbug wennmach%NetBSD.org@localhost
misc/m17n-db 3 obache%NetBSD.org@localhost
misc/molden oishi%ims.ac.jp@localhost
misc/root drochner%NetBSD.org@localhost
misc/team pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
misc/watch simonb%NetBSD.org@localhost
multimedia/bsdav bjs%NetBSD.org@localhost
multimedia/dvdstyler pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
multimedia/gmplayer pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
multimedia/goggles pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
multimedia/mencoder 3 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
multimedia/mplayer 9 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
multimedia/php-ming obache%NetBSD.org@localhost
php4-ming-4.4.8 obache%NetBSD.org@localhost
multimedia/transcode 2 xtraeme%NetBSD.org@localhost
multimedia/vls pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
multimedia/xine-lib 20 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
net/3proxy pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
net/DarwinStreamingServer adam%NetBSD.org@localhost
net/coda gdt%NetBSD.org@localhost
net/delegate rh%NetBSD.org@localhost
net/freewais-sf bad%NetBSD.org@localhost
net/hping atatat%NetBSD.org@localhost
net/isc-dhclient adrianp%NetBSD.org@localhost
net/isc-dhcp adrianp%NetBSD.org@localhost
net/isc-dhcpd adrianp%NetBSD.org@localhost
net/isc-dhcrelay adrianp%NetBSD.org@localhost
net/mppe-lkm cube%NetBSD.org@localhost
net/mrt pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
net/nasd pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
net/netbsd-tap cube%NetBSD.org@localhost
net/netsaint-plugins pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
net/openwbem pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
net/ppp-lzs plunky%rya-online.net@localhost
net/py-zsi recht%NetBSD.org@localhost
py23-ZSI-2.0 recht%NetBSD.org@localhost
py22-ZSI-2.0 recht%NetBSD.org@localhost
py21-ZSI-2.0 recht%NetBSD.org@localhost
py20-ZSI-2.0 recht%NetBSD.org@localhost
net/ser pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
net/spreadlogd mark%exonetric.com@localhost
net/vnc riz%NetBSD.org@localhost
net/wistumbler2 pancake%phreaker.net@localhost
net/wistumbler2-gtk pancake%phreaker.net@localhost
net/youtube-dl pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
news/nn pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
parallel/glunix pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
parallel/openpbs pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
pkgtools/mtree grant%NetBSD.org@localhost
pkgtools/shlock pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
print/bg5pdf rxg%NetBSD.org@localhost
print/gutenprint-lib gdt%NetBSD.org@localhost
security/isakmpd pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
security/kth-krb4 3 wennmach%NetBSD.org@localhost
security/openssl 10 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
security/otpCalc pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
security/p5-pcsc 1 shannonjr%NetBSD.org@localhost
security/prelude-manager shannonjr%NetBSD.org@localhost
security/prelude-pflogger shannonjr%NetBSD.org@localhost
security/py-SSLCrypto pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
security/sfs pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
security/tripwire pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
shells/es pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
shells/scsh 2 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
sysutils/9base pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
sysutils/easydiskpasswd drochner%NetBSD.org@localhost
sysutils/gnometoaster pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
sysutils/gpart pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
sysutils/gworkspace 2 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
sysutils/htop pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
sysutils/open-vm-tools agc%NetBSD.org@localhost
sysutils/radeontool jmcneill%NetBSD.org@localhost
sysutils/sformat
Andreas.Hallmann%tiscali.de@localhost,pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
sysutils/strace christos%NetBSD.org@localhost
sysutils/xenkernel3 bouyer%NetBSD.org@localhost
sysutils/xentools3 1 bouyer%NetBSD.org@localhost
textproc/bsdgrep-devel cjep%NetBSD.org@localhost
textproc/convertlit pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
textproc/highlight pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
textproc/lua-expat pancake%phreaker.net@localhost
textproc/p5-Text-BibTeX pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
textproc/po4a 2 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
time/xonclock pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
wm/compiz pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
wm/golem pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
wm/metisse pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
wm/twm 1 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
www/ap-auth-mysql pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
ap22-auth-mysql-4.3.1 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
www/ap-python pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
www/ap2-subversion epg%NetBSD.org@localhost
ap2-subversion-1.4.6nb1 epg%NetBSD.org@localhost
www/cherokee jmmv%NetBSD.org@localhost
www/clearsilver-base 1 epg%NetBSD.org@localhost
www/curl 111 recht%NetBSD.org@localhost
www/epiphany 2 jmmv%NetBSD.org@localhost
www/ganglia-webfrontend jschauma%NetBSD.org@localhost
www/liferea pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
www/mono-xsp kefren%NetBSD.org@localhost
www/nvu pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
www/ocsigen jaapb%kerguelen.org@localhost
www/ruby-clearsilver 1 epg%NetBSD.org@localhost
www/screws pancake%phreaker.net@localhost
www/thy
algernon%bonehunter.rulez.org@localhost
www/weex tech-pkg-ja%jp.NetBSD.org@localhost
x11/appres 1 joerg%NetBSD.org@localhost
x11/beforelight 1 joerg%NetBSD.org@localhost
x11/bitmap 1 joerg%NetBSD.org@localhost
x11/dxpc pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
x11/editres 1 joerg%NetBSD.org@localhost
x11/efltk 1 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
x11/gnome-mag 2 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
x11/gnustep-preferences 2 adam%NetBSD.org@localhost
x11/iceauth 1 joerg%NetBSD.org@localhost
x11/ico 1 joerg%NetBSD.org@localhost
x11/lablgtk1 2 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
x11/labltk adam%NetBSD.org@localhost
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x11/libICE joerg%NetBSD.org@localhost
x11/libSM joerg%NetBSD.org@localhost
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x11/libXTrap 1 joerg%NetBSD.org@localhost
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x11/libXevie 3 joerg%NetBSD.org@localhost
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x11/libXi joerg%NetBSD.org@localhost
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x11/libXmu joerg%NetBSD.org@localhost
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x11/libXtst joerg%NetBSD.org@localhost
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x11/libXvMC 5 joerg%NetBSD.org@localhost
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x11/libXxf86vm joerg%NetBSD.org@localhost
x11/liblbxutil 1 joerg%NetBSD.org@localhost
x11/libxkbfile joerg%NetBSD.org@localhost
x11/libxkbui joerg%NetBSD.org@localhost
x11/listres 1 joerg%NetBSD.org@localhost
x11/matchbox-panel 1 pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
x11/ocaml-graphics 2 adam%NetBSD.org@localhost
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x11/rgb joerg%NetBSD.org@localhost
x11/sessreg 2 joerg%NetBSD.org@localhost
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x11/transset-df pkgsrc-users%NetBSD.org@localhost
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x11/xauth 1 joerg%NetBSD.org@localhost
x11/xbacklight 1 joerg%NetBSD.org@localhost
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x11/xinit 1 joerg%NetBSD.org@localhost
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x11/xload 1 joerg%NetBSD.org@localhost
x11/xlsclients 1 joerg%NetBSD.org@localhost
x11/xmag 1 joerg%NetBSD.org@localhost
x11/xmessage 1 joerg%NetBSD.org@localhost
x11/xmodmap 1 joerg%NetBSD.org@localhost
x11/xprehashprinterlist 1 joerg%NetBSD.org@localhost
x11/xprop 1 joerg%NetBSD.org@localhost
x11/xrandr 1 joerg%NetBSD.org@localhost
x11/xrdb 1 joerg%NetBSD.org@localhost
x11/xrefresh 1 joerg%NetBSD.org@localhost
x11/xset 1 joerg%NetBSD.org@localhost
x11/xsetmode 1 joerg%NetBSD.org@localhost
x11/xsetpointer 1 joerg%NetBSD.org@localhost
x11/xsetroot 1 joerg%NetBSD.org@localhost
x11/xsm 1 joerg%NetBSD.org@localhost
x11/xvinfo 1 joerg%NetBSD.org@localhost
x11/xwd 1 reed%reedmedia.net@localhost
x11/xwininfo 1 joerg%NetBSD.org@localhost
x11/xwud 1 reed%reedmedia.net@localhost
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