Re: pkg/43726 (Tru64: sysutils/dbus fails to compile because Tru64 is lacking vsyslog() implementation)

[Rumi Szabolcs <rumi%rtfm.hu@localhost>]

The following reply was made to PR pkg/43726; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Rumi Szabolcs <rumi%rtfm.hu@localhost>
To: gnats-bugs%netbsd.org@localhost
Cc: 
Subject: Re: pkg/43726 (Tru64: sysutils/dbus fails to compile because Tru64
 is lacking vsyslog() implementation)
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2021 20:35:40 +0000

 Hi Chris,
 
 Would you possibly go as far as to file a PR saying there's
 need for a Tru64 environment to work in? I'd then look into
 options, and possibly others would, too. I know there are
 Alpha enthusiasts out there, possibly with a lot more free
 time than I have.
 
 As far as I'm concerned feel free to close those old Tru64 PRs
 I've filed as you see fit.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Sab
 
 
 On Tue,  9 Feb 2021 19:45:01 +0000 (UTC)
 Chris Pinnock <chris_pinnock%mac.com@localhost> wrote:
 
 > The following reply was made to PR pkg/43726; it has been noted by GNATS.
 > 
 > From: Chris Pinnock <chris_pinnock%mac.com@localhost>
 > To: Rumi Szabolcs <rumi%rtfm.hu@localhost>
 > Cc: gnats-bugs%netbsd.org@localhost,
 >  Chris Pinnock <cjep%netbsd.org@localhost>,
 >  gnats-admin%netbsd.org@localhost,
 >  pkgsrc-bugs%netbsd.org@localhost
 > Subject: Re: pkg/43726 (Tru64: sysutils/dbus fails to compile because Tru64 is
 >  lacking vsyslog() implementation)
 > Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2021 19:41:35 +0000
 > 
 >  The PRs are accessible even if they are closed.
 >  We do not intend to drop support for Tru64 - the problem is we need some =
 >  way of working on it.
 >  I do not intend to remove any logic from the pkgsrc tree.
 >  Kind regards
 >  Chris
 >  
 >  
 >  > On 9 Feb 2021, at 19:37, Rumi Szabolcs <rumi%rtfm.hu@localhost> wrote:
 >  >=20
 >  > Hi Chris,
 >  >=20
 >  > Obviously it'd have to be a pkgsrc many years more recent if we'd try
 >  > again. I understand your intent of cleaning up old stale PRs, however
 >  > I've got two questions:
 >  >=20
 >  > 1.) Will these PRs remain accessible by searching for closed PRs?
 >  > Some of the hints recorded in them might help solving issues even
 >  > with much newer versions of software as the Tru64 side is pretty
 >  > much the same as it was a few years ago?
 >  >=20
 >  > 2.) Will closing these PRs mean that Tru64 as a consideration
 >  > will sink from the conscious into oblivion?
 >  >=20
 >  > Thanks,
 >  >=20
 >  > Sab
 >  >=20
 >  >=20
 >  > On Tue, 9 Feb 2021 19:04:29 +0000
 >  > Chris Pinnock <chris_pinnock%mac.com@localhost> wrote:
 >  >=20
 >  >> We=E2=80=99d love to keep it alive if we can. Unfortunately we =
 >  don=E2=80=99t have anyone with test kit at the moment, so it is =
 >  difficult to test. The other option would be to get it working on an =
 >  emulator somehow.
 >  >>=20
 >  >> Are you ok if I close this PR in the meantime? Even if we get a Tru64 =
 >  box, we=E2=80=99ll need to start from scratch with the latest
 >  >> bootstrap.
 >  >>=20
 >  >> Kind regards
 >  >> Chris
 >  >>=20
 >  >>> On 9 Feb 2021, at 19:00, Rumi Szabolcs <rumi%rtfm.hu@localhost> wrote:
 >  >>>=20
 >  >>> The following reply was made to PR pkg/43726; it has been noted by =
 >  GNATS.
 >  >>>=20
 >  >>> From: Rumi Szabolcs <rumi%rtfm.hu@localhost>
 >  >>> To: gnats-bugs%netbsd.org@localhost
 >  >>> Cc: cjep%NetBSD.org@localhost, cjep%netbsd.org@localhost, osf1-pkg-people%NetBSD.org@localhost,
 >  >>> pkgsrc-bugs%netbsd.org@localhost, gnats-admin%netbsd.org@localhost
 >  >>> Subject: Re: pkg/43726 (Tru64: sysutils/dbus fails to compile =
 >  because Tru64
 >  >>> is lacking vsyslog() implementation)
 >  >>> Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2021 17:40:50 +0000
 >  >>>=20
 >  >>> Hi Cjep,
 >  >>>=20
 >  >>> Unfortunately can't right now as my Alpha kit is tucked away in a
 >  >>> corner 1000 miles away.
 >  >>>=20
 >  >>> However with this rate of response it's simply not viable to do =
 >  this.
 >  >>> The kit is huge, loud, and expensive to run so if I'd drag it out =
 >  into
 >  >>> the middle of my room and managed to fire it up without tripping the
 >  >>> circuit breakers we'd better have a few developers lined up to fix =
 >  the
 >  >>> PRs quickly as they come up. There would be plenty to fix. I've =
 >  filed
 >  >>> a flurry of PRs back in the day when I've first attempted a =
 >  bootstrap
 >  >>> and didn't even get 10% of the way of compiling pkgsrc before I got
 >  >>> stuck. These are my memories from many years ago.
 >  >>>=20
 >  >>> It'd be nice to keep pkgsrc on Tru64 alive though as that pretty =
 >  much
 >  >>> means keeping Tru64 alive as a viable OS.
 >  >>>=20
 >  >>> Thank you for caring about Tru64/AXP!
 >  >>>=20
 >  >>> Kind regards,
 >  >>>=20
 >  >>> Sab
 >  >>>=20
 >  >>>=20
 >  >>> On Tue,  9 Feb 2021 17:13:44 +0000 (UTC)
 >  >>> cjep%NetBSD.org@localhost wrote:
 >  >>>=20
 >  >>>> Synopsis: Tru64: sysutils/dbus fails to compile because Tru64 is =
 >  lacking vsyslog() implementation
 >  >>>>=20
 >  >>>> Responsible-Changed-From-To: osf1-pkg-people->cjep
 >  >>>> Responsible-Changed-By: cjep%NetBSD.org@localhost
 >  >>>> Responsible-Changed-When: Tue, 09 Feb 2021 17:13:44 +0000
 >  >>>> Responsible-Changed-Why:
 >  >>>> Taking a look at OSF1 bugs
 >  >>>>=20
 >  >>>>=20
 >  >>>> State-Changed-From-To: open->feedback
 >  >>>> State-Changed-By: cjep%NetBSD.org@localhost
 >  >>>> State-Changed-When: Tue, 09 Feb 2021 17:13:44 +0000
 >  >>>> State-Changed-Why:
 >  >>>> Hi - apologies this is a very old PR. Are you able to test =
 >  pkgsrc-current
 >  >>>> on Tru64?
 >  >>>>=20
 >  >>>>=20
 >  >>>>=20
 >  >>>=20
 >  >>>=20
 >  >>=20
 >