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On Oct,Tuesday 30 2007, at 5:10 AM, Mark Weinem wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Unfortunately, the documented instructions to build NetBSD are not  
> coherent:
>
> The procedure from "Updating a stable NetBSD release"
>
> 	$ cd /usr/src
> 	$ ./build.sh -O ../obj -T ../tools kernel=<KERNEL>
> 	$ ./build.sh -U distribution
> 	$ su ...
> 	# mv /netbsd /netbsd.old
> 	# mv /usr/src/sys/arch/<ARCH>/compile/<KERNEL>/netbsd /
> 	# shutdown -r now ...
> 	$ cd /usr/src
> 	$ su
> 	# ./build.sh -O ../obj -T ../tools -U install=/
>
>    (http://netbsd.org/docs/updating.html#summary)
>
> * re-building the toolchain is not mentioned in the summary
>

toolchain is built automatically no need to run build.sh tools

> * building the kernel before the userland

I don't see any difference here usually I build distribution and  
after that kernel. If anything goes wrong I will not update my server.

> * running etcupdate(8) is missing
>

I update my netbsd servers this way. + postinstall and etcupdate.

>
> The procedure from "Tracking NetBSD-current":
>
> 	$ cd /usr/src
> 	$ ./build.sh -O ../obj -T ../tools -U -u tools
> 	$ ./build.sh  -O ../obj -T ../tools -U -u distribution
> 	$ ./build.sh  -O ../obj -T ../tools -U -u kernel=GENERIC
> 	$ cd ../obj/sys/arch/<ARCH>/compile/GENERIC
>     	$ su ...
>     	# mv /netbsd /netbsd.old
>     	# cp netbsd /netbsd
> 	# shutdown -r now
> 	$ cd /usr/src
> 	$ su
>     	# ./build.sh -O ../obj -T ../tools -U install=/
> 	# /usr/src/usr.sbin/postinstall/postinstall -s /usr/src -d // fix
> 	# /usr/sbin/etcupdate -s /usr/src
>
>    (http://netbsd.org/docs/current/#updating)
>
> * building the userland before the kernel!
>
> * any reason to run "/usr/src/usr.sbin/postinstall/postinstall"  
> instead of
>   "/usr/sbin/postinstall"?
>
> * running postinstall(8) manually - is this still necessary, as
>   etcupdate(8) runs postinstall too?
>
>
> The documents src/BUILDING and src/UPDATING don't provide complete  
> procedures. src/UPDATING states:
>
> 	Build a new kernel first:
>         This makes sure that any new system calls or features
>         expected by the new userland will be present. This
>         helps to avoid critical errors when upgrading.
>
> What is meant here, running "./build.sh ... kernel" before "./ 
> build.sh ... distribution" or installing the new kernel before  
> installing the new userland?
>
> So what's the "correct" procedure (or the recommended practice)?  
> And should this be documented in src/BUILDING and src/UPDATING?
>

Regards

Adam.

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