Subject: Re: Changing to NetBSD
To: Douglas A. Tutty <>
From: David Brownlee <>
List: netbsd-users
Date: 10/25/2007 16:36:39
On Tue, 23 Oct 2007, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:

> On Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 04:03:34PM -0700, Francisco Valladolid Hdez.
> wrote:
>>> On Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 10:11:58AM -0400, Brian A.  Seklecki wrote:
>>>>> - OpenOffice
>>>> 2.x requires Java to build.  Both are
>>> flagged for-i386-only.
>>>> I will pay for functional OO2.x and Java on amd64,
>>> if someone wants to
>>>> ballpark the man hours to make i386 linux
>>> emulation work on amd64
>>>> Oh and I'll double up for Evolution and gFTP.
>>> Debian has OO and gFTP (don't know about Evolution) in amd64.  Can
>>> NetBSD amd64 run linux amd64?
>> I have a AMD64 machine, then I setup the NetBSD i386 port on it, so I
>> have all apps for i386 in my amd64 machine (indluding flash, java,
>> etc.)
> Right, of course i386 will run on an Athlon64.  But you can't then run
> amd64 or access more than 3 GB ram, or give an app more than 2 GB VM.

 	Not that amd64 doesn't massively increase those limits,
 	but for reference the 3GB limit tends to float around a
 	bit depending on your BIOS: eg from an i386 server here:

NetBSD 4.0_RC2 (_ACPI_) #4: Sun Oct  7 23:08:00 BST 2007
total memory = 3967 MB
rbus: rbus_min_start set to 0xc0000000
avail memory = 3888 MB
timecounter: Timecounters tick every 0.976 msec
timecounter: Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 100
BIOS32 rev. 0 found at 0xf0010
SMBIOS rev. 2.3 @ 0xf0530 (68 entries)
mainbus0 (root)
cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor)
cpu0: AMD Athlon 64 or Athlon 64 FX or Opteron (686-class), 2403.26 MHz, id 0x20
cpu0: features e7dbfbff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR>
cpu0: features e7dbfbff<PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MPC,NOX,MMXX,MMX>
cpu0: features e7dbfbff<FXSR,SSE,SSE2,LONG,3DNOW2,3DNOW>
cpu0: features2 1<SSE3>
cpu0: "AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 4000+"

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