Subject: Re: Debian redefines itself
To: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Przemys=B3aw_Pawe=B3czyk?= <>
From: Andy Ruhl <>
List: netbsd-users
Date: 04/18/2007 12:46:19
On 4/18/07, Przemysław Pawełczyk <> wrote:
> Hi,
> I've read an interesting succinct article about Debian 4.0 latest
> release. I will quote a few lines, and I'd like to know what official
> representatives of NetBSD Community would answer me if I asked them
> how NetBSD and Debian 4.0 could be compared within the quoted subjects.

I'm sure I'll take some abuse from you on this, since it seems you're
dying to abuse anyone who responds to you, but oh well. I'm a glutton
for punishment I guess.

NetBSD is NOT for the uninitiated. If the uninitiated want to use it,
that's great, but they'll have to spend time learning and reading. If
they want to write about their experience along the way, that's

I'm not an insider, but I can say with some certainty that the project
doesn't have time or resources to pander to new, unitiated users. It's
being built from the inside out as a high quality operating system,
not from the outside in to have a fancy GUI that works for new users.

As far as treating users like students or "do it yourself", that's
what NetBSD's excellent man pages are for. The online manual covers
most of the rest.

Deal with it. Or don't, but I think you're wasting a lot of time
trying to get people to believe that NetBSD needs to be easier to use
for those who probably don't have a need to use it in the first place.

You might want to reconsider NetBSD and move over to PC BSD or
something, it seems to fit your idea of what NetBSD should be better.