Subject: Re: Desktop application agenda
To: David Brownlee <abs@NetBSD.org>
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Date: 04/13/2007 18:45:17
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On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 00:07:39 +0100 (BST)
David Brownlee <abs@NetBSD.org> wrote:
> If I wanted a box to connect up to my TV to run freevo,
> kde and suchlike for my partner then I need a whole bunch
> of other applications on that box, if I want something for
> a sparc5 or a small disk old laptop... if need a different
> set of apps.
Many thanks for your words. Not a bile but a gentleman's answer. Thanks
> So, what does NetBSD try to do:
> So, in what areas can this be improved
> c) Improving the pkgsrc infrastructure, in particular having
> an option for a standard NetBSD install to automatically pull
> in packages from pkgsrc, via binary packages initially and
> later via filling in the holes via src where needed.
> _This_ is where I think the real win would be
I'm all for it! And vice-versa, to pull binaries (if exist), not
sources, for every dependency during compilation.
> d) Having more choice of NetBSD installations which come
> preconfigured with useful applications.
That's what I pointed out, to no avail.
> While I think 'c)' is more useful, this is also a win.
> Interestingly we have pkgsrc/sysutils/mklivecd which
> allows custom live cds to be built. I think having an option to
> put an installer on that would be very interesting,
> particularly when combined with c).
Revolution's coming! I still don't believe my eyes.
> Note d) is a _perfect_ area where someone can experiment
> and when they have something which works for them and
> others they can come back and say "look at this, would
> it not be good if we could add this as an option to the
> official NetBSD releases"
Nooooo, you're kidding? Right?
> People want different things from NetBSD. We need to try to
> pick directions which can give the most people "what they want", and
> I think c) and d) from the above are two options in that.
> > Perhaps your "hate" makes you "blind" and you didn't notice what
> > I really said. _That I'm not using NetBSD. I'm using applications
> > running under control of operating system, here NetBSD._
> I think your phrasing may be offputting to some. hate is
> quite a strong word, and people are likely to focus on that word and
> your message may be lost.
That's right. But I said it before - some pay attention to form,
not to e-mail text nitty-gritty.
> Another way of phrase it might have been:
> "Perhaps your strong views against the idea of "bloating"
> NetBSD meant you missed my main point. _That I'm not using
> NetBSD. I'm using applications running under control of
> operating system, here NetBSD._"
Let it be then. If it only secure results from all the mess with
Mr. Pawełczyk's ideas.
Przemysław (p2o2) Pawełczyk <firstname.lastname@example.org>
The LearN@BSD Project: http://pp.kv.net.pl
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