Subject: Re: Can we mount the 5th Generation Ipod?
To: Steven M. Bellovin <>
From: Paul (NCC/CS) <>
List: netbsd-users
Date: 09/30/2006 10:33:49
Gidday folks,

mmm  big problems.

1. i have taken possession of the new 5th gen. determined to get an ipod,
they are quite special. almost worth the $$$ for the exquisite pleasure of
unwrapping such a thing.

2. i have the same problems as David. can't mount. and incorrect geometry
detected. bummer.

3. I have posted on port-i386 as this to me is a low level i386 thing.
But with no replies thus far i wonder if i should have posted here.

So who and what list is ideal to ask questions about this
geometry problem WRT  netbsd?

4. I wonder if someone in Linux world has been able to mount the new
5th gen? If they did it on 386 then we can!  ( if it bleeds we can kill it :)

All help appreciated.

In the mean time i'll just get my moneys worth by looking at it.
And occasionally picking it up.


"Steven M. Bellovin" wrote:

> On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 21:54:38 +0200, Geert Hendrickx <>
> wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 29, 2006 at 01:26:32PM +1000, Paul (NCC/CS). wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi all netbsd folks,
> > >
> > > my new 5th gen ipod has reportedly arrived at the local apple shop
> > > for me to march down and hand over the cash for.
> > >
> > > Has anyone successfully mounted this with netbsd yet?
> > >
> > > I have mounted a 4th gen with success but last i heard, the 5th Gen
> > > was having problems with mounting.
> > >
> > > any tips appreciated ,
> >
> > Probably off-topic, but you could try to run Rockbox[1] on your iPod.
> > Maybe it behaves as a standard  umass device then.  I've ran it on my
> > iRiver H10,  and while it's still very new on that "platform", it was
> > pretty good already.
> >
> Fascinating; I hadn't even heard of the project.  That said, from a quick
> glance at their web pages I doubt that Rockbox will help here.  The
> problem is very low level -- NetBSD isn't picking up the proper device
> geometry.  Since the Rockbox installation instructions talk about doing
> things with the raw drive to install on an iPod, I don't see how to even
> begin.  (OTOH -- it might yield useful diagnostic data if someone were to
> install Rockbox on the device from, say, Linux, and then see how it
> appeared to NetBSD.)  We just seem to be doing something wrong (but
> possibly still in accordance with the spec, so "incompatible" might be a
> better word) at the USB or SCSI layers.
> The Rockbox page did mention something else that might be worth trying:
> boot the device into "disk mode", via the instructions at
> and see what
> happens.  I don't know, frankly, what the difference should be for "disk
> mode" versus regular mode on NetBSD.
> Btw, I checked my son's iPd against the chart at
> -- his is the earlier
> 5th Generation iPod.
>                 --Steven M. Bellovin,



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