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On 31/08/06, Andy Ruhl <acruhl@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 8/31/06, Charles M. Hannum <mycroft@mit.edu> wrote:
> > Actually, defining (poorly) the OS to include so much else has been a
> > liability for NetBSD in many ways.  It has massively slowed the adoption
> > of new software versions (e.g. GCC), for one.  It also contributed to
> > the perception that a better package system and automatic updates were
> > not a serious issue.
>
> It would be interesting to hear more discussion on this.
>
> If there is a continuum that is what the definition of an OS is, with
> a bare kernel on the left and something like SuSE with multiple gigs
> of junk on the right, NetBSD is toward the left. I think consensus is
> among NetBSD people is that this is a good thing. If you want
> something, put it in pkgsrc.


To be fair, it's easy to remove 'junk' from SuSE, and not much harder to
pile junk into a working Gentoo, Slackware or NetBSD installation.

Ironically one complaint that's often voiced at SuSE is that its selection
of rpm junk isn't as extensive as other distros'.

Jeff.

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<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 31/08/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">Andy Ruhl</b> &lt;<a href="mailto:acruhl@gmail.com">acruhl@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
On 8/31/06, Charles M. Hannum &lt;<a href="mailto:mycroft@mit.edu">mycroft@mit.edu</a>&gt; wrote:<br>&gt; Actually, defining (poorly) the OS to include so much else has been a<br>&gt; liability for NetBSD in many ways.&nbsp;&nbsp;It has massively slowed the adoption
<br>&gt; of new software versions (e.g. GCC), for one.&nbsp;&nbsp;It also contributed to<br>&gt; the perception that a better package system and automatic updates were<br>&gt; not a serious issue.<br><br>It would be interesting to hear more discussion on this.
<br><br>If there is a continuum that is what the definition of an OS is, with<br>a bare kernel on the left and something like SuSE with multiple gigs<br>of junk on the right, NetBSD is toward the left. I think consensus is
<br>among NetBSD people is that this is a good thing. If you want<br>something, put it in pkgsrc.</blockquote><div><br>To be fair, it's easy to remove 'junk' from SuSE, and not much harder to pile junk into a working Gentoo, Slackware or NetBSD installation.
<br></div><br>Ironically one complaint that's often voiced at SuSE is that its selection of rpm junk isn't as extensive as other distros'.<br></div><br>Jeff.<br>

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