Benny Siegert dixit:

> A very pessimistic article but well worth a read:
>
> http://mail-index.netbsd.org/netbsd-users/2006/08/30/0016.html

You could've just replied to it so that the References: header
can be perused. I've changed this mail to reply to it for threading.


Charles M. Hannum dixit:

>Much of this early structure (CVS, web site, cabal, etc.) was copied
>verbatim by other open source (this term not being in wide use yet)
>projects -- even the form of the project name and the term "core".  This
>later became a kind of standard template for starting up an open source
>project.
>
>Unfortunately, we made some mistakes here.  As we've seen over the
>years, one of the great successes of Linux was that it had a strong
>leader, who set goals and directions, and was able to get people to do
>what he wanted -- or find someone else to do it.

On the other hand, the "bazaar" model of Linux leads to bad code
and no well-defined APIs. While it's true that the "core-team"
model _might_ benefit from a strong leadership, care should be
taken to avoid Linux' "success" because it'll be its failure
soon enough. (I mean, hey, 5 new kernels in 2 days, wtf?)


Nick Guenther dixit:

> Um. Wow. I think Theo wins.

OpenBSD has had MicroBSD forked off twice, MirOS and ekkoBSD too.


Travers Buda dixit:

> As for Charles M. Hannum: fork!

I don't think so, as long as he can improve the inner status of
the NetBSD project. Forking is the solution if you're outside,
want to improve and are ignored, or, if you're inside but don't
see your interesting new ideas being accepted well or fitting
within the project's overall policy (DragonFly).


Andy Ball dixit:

> suspend and resume work on my laptop.  I know that work is being done    =
                                       =20
> on PowerNow! for AMD K6-2+, Athlon etc.

Incidentally, Martin V=E9giard's PowerNow work showed up in
OpenBSD and FreeBSD=AE first, in NetBSD=AE last.


@OpenBSD people:

I did leave this mailing list, I'm just keeping the Cc: list.


bye,
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