Subject: Re: Adding a filesystem to a disk
To: Robert Elz <kre@munnari.OZ.AU>
From: Florian Stoehr <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Date: 12/28/2004 20:07:08
On Tue, 28 Dec 2004, Robert Elz wrote:
> Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2004 01:40:55 +0100 (CET)
> From: Florian Stoehr <email@example.com>
> Message-ID: <Pine.NEB.firstname.lastname@example.org>
> | See man newfs_msdos", your option is "-F 32".
> I'm pretty sure that was the answer that was wanted.
> | Formatting is not necessary for harddisks
> That's not true, something has to do it - it's just that these
> days they're always formatted at the factory and there's rarely
> ever a reason to re-do that (rarely, not never).
Maybe I didn't explain it well. I talked about the "real" formatting here,
not what DOS/Win call "formatting". Sure, they have to be "real" formatted
once in factory --> but not in his case in order to bring a filesystem
> | (actually the "formatting" performed by DOS/Win is just a verify).
> I suspect the question was using "format" in the dos/win sense of
> "make that filesystem ready to contain files" - which is what we
> call newfs (and which Brian seemed to know, he'd tried newfs already,
> just missed newfs_msdos).
> formatting in the other sense, of laying down the sector preambles
> and headers (with sector i-d's) and stuff almost certainly never
> crossed Brian's mind here.
Mmm, perhaps. It's just wired because of those MS-guys calling "format"
what we call "newfs".
> | You only need to format floppies; use "fdformat" for that task.
> These days, floppies are almost always factory formatted as well,
> there's rarely much need to bother with fdformat (unless your floppy
> drive is badly wacked, in which case, fdformat might give you
> floppies that you can use, but then they're only ever likely to
> work in the drive they were formatted on).
Hehe ... you've ever seen a good working floppy, especially if it's ten
years old and the eight years old drive has never seen a floppy before?