Subject: Re: console scrollback ?
To: None <firstname.lastname@example.org>
From: Zafer Aydogan <email@example.com>
Date: 12/08/2004 14:05:19
>Christos Zoulas wrote:
>In article <firstname.lastname@example.org>,
>Zafer Aydogan <email@example.com> wrote:
>>is there a way to do a scrollback on a NetBSD console?
>>SHIFT+PageUP does not work :/
>left-shift+fn+page-up should work in a current kernel.
>What's "fn"? Function keys?
Unfortunately, I still can't scroll up on the console or any of the ttyE*
Is there a way to do that, or is it planned to be done ?
The point is, that it is absolutely unflexible, if you get an error during
compiling of a package and you can't scroll up, to see what it was.
Ok, sure I could | tee up every command in a seperate file, but as I said,
it's not flexible.
Which leads me to the second point on my list.
I was in a good mood today and just wanted to install GIMP on one of my
computers, which I use unregulary.
On that computer was installed KDE 3.3.0 and a few other packages. My pkgsrc
tree was updated.
Installing GIMP failed, because of some packages which were already
installed but older than expected.
I thought, ok, just make "make update" and it will update everything....
And it did. Tried to update almost everything including the core KDE
packages but by deinstalling them first. :/
Though, that really messed up the whole system.
I had a similar problem during updating Perl.
Right now, everything is deinstalled, and I have to install everything again
to get it back running and even if I have a quite powerful computer and a
good connection to the internet, I have not the time to wait hours and hours
and hours until really all packages are recompiled.
And now, we come back to the point of flexibility.
I think, not only me, but we, need a packaging system, that works far more
easier and quicker. Like drag and drop or click and go, just install and
I mean it's really frustating, if you like, admire and try to spread the
word on an Operation System that you like, that is so much unflexible and
Best Regards, Zafer.