Subject: Re: 2.0rc4 unstability
To: Jukka Marin <>
From: None <>
List: netbsd-users
Date: 11/17/2004 23:45:19
I've been running RC4 for over 3 weeks, without a single crash.  The
machine is primarily used for Java development, but I'm also running
Apache/PHP and a few network services.  Of course, this is using the
generic kernel.  I'm also using the latest KDE and Gnome, without a
hitch.  I'm also running the CVS version of gimp.  I have to say I'm
very impressed by the stability.  I don't know why some people might
be having trouble.

Then again, I'm running this on a brand new Dell system, so the
hardware is pretty new.

On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 23:11:26 +0200, Jukka Marin <> wrote:
> Hello,
> I have whined about 2.0 problems and I still do :-I  Both my desktop
> machine and laptop freeze (probably panic; I should really configure
> serial consoles for all machines and build a nest of serial cables)
> every now and then.
> My desktop system repeatedly freezes when I use gimp to save an image
> to a local disk (at least when I save to the same partition where the
> gimp temp file is).  This machine also froze when I tried to print a
> PS file from a remote machine to an USB printer connected to this
> machine.  (I haven't seen this one more than once, but I don't really
> use a printer all that much.)
> My laptop freezes easily when watching a DVD using xine and moving the
> mouse pointer into the xine control window.
> A friend's machine froze when he killed an xterm.
> I don't know if 2.0rc4 is stable for all other people in the world,
> but it's the most unstable NetBSD release (well, not a release just
> yet) that I have ever used (sinze 0.9c on Amiga).  1.6 was rock solid
> on the same machines.
> Would I be better off running -current?  All I want is to get my
> work done - I hate crashes and I hate 15-minute fsck sessions. :-(
> I guess I have to disable softdeps in all kernels and see if that
> helps.  It will kill compile speed, but so do frequent reboots.
> Sorry for whining again.
>  -jm