Subject: 2.0rc4 unstability
To: NetBSD Users <>
From: Jukka Marin <>
List: netbsd-users
Date: 11/17/2004 23:11:26

I have whined about 2.0 problems and I still do :-I  Both my desktop
machine and laptop freeze (probably panic; I should really configure
serial consoles for all machines and build a nest of serial cables)
every now and then.

My desktop system repeatedly freezes when I use gimp to save an image
to a local disk (at least when I save to the same partition where the
gimp temp file is).  This machine also froze when I tried to print a
PS file from a remote machine to an USB printer connected to this
machine.  (I haven't seen this one more than once, but I don't really
use a printer all that much.)

My laptop freezes easily when watching a DVD using xine and moving the
mouse pointer into the xine control window.

A friend's machine froze when he killed an xterm.

I don't know if 2.0rc4 is stable for all other people in the world,
but it's the most unstable NetBSD release (well, not a release just
yet) that I have ever used (sinze 0.9c on Amiga).  1.6 was rock solid
on the same machines.

Would I be better off running -current?  All I want is to get my
work done - I hate crashes and I hate 15-minute fsck sessions. :-(
I guess I have to disable softdeps in all kernels and see if that
helps.  It will kill compile speed, but so do frequent reboots.

Sorry for whining again.