Quoting Sean Davis (erplefoo@gmail.com):
> On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 04:43:30 -0500, carnivorous@gmail.com
> <carnivorous@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I think, some people had mentioned that the daemon is often times
> > recognized as a FreeBSD specific icon, rather than a universal BSD
> > symbol.  I personally like the daemon, but a more serious and cleaner
> > looking logo would be better for NetBSD.
...
> I've heard that, too. It sounds like total BS to me. The daemon was a
> BSD symbol before FreeBSD existed. They don't have exclusive usage
> rights to it. And please clarify: "cleaner?" cleaner than what? than

The Daemon was originally drawn by Berkeley Student John Lassiter
for Kirk McKusick who holds copyright but makes it widely available
for BSD based things and appears to enforce copyright when, say,
a club clothing company puts Beastie onto its retail shirts just
because "it's cool looking".

So far we're good.  (I have no issue with someone protecting the
dilution of the Beastie image)

| Yeah, so?  Until the advent of BSD/386; FreeBSD; NetBSD; and a bit
| later, OpenBSD; BSD was the purview of academia without much exposure
| to the general populace.
Um, along with THE INTERNET in general.

> the daemon? or than the iwo jima logo we have now? I don't personally
> like the iwo jima logo much, but if I had to choose between it and,

> I'm just... I dunno, bothered that the core NetBSD folks are changing
> our logo in order to be politically correct (daemons are bad! only
> satanists use BSD!). I think they're forgetting that no matter what,
> not everyone will be happy with it, and I would put money on less
> people being happy with the new logo than are currently happy with the
> one we've had for a long time now.


A big issue is that the IwoJima image SUCKS as a graphical design for
a logo.  It's ugly small and its a bear to reproduce.  Large complex
imagery bad for Logos.

http://www.netbsd.org/gallery/logos.html  look a lot like the FreeBSD
interpretation of Beastie to me.

Me?  again (it's in the archives from last time), I say give him a
bigger pitchfork (trident) and a Net and you've got a fine NET bsd
logo.


Perhaps harpoon a jesus fish just to piss off the christian extremists ;)


I do like adopting YHWH as a logo. 
  "NetBSD: God is on our side"
  "NetBSD: Your soul is ours"
  "NetBSD: Use it or will take another rib"


But mostly that's cause I'm bored :)