damn, that tatoo is REALLY cool!

Well, but on the human body, there are 2mē room, so enough space for
upcoming new BSD logos ;-)

And again a vote for keeping the daemon!

Florian

Johan A.van Zanten wrote:
> "Ian Harding" <ianh@tpchd.org> wrote:
> 
>>God I wish it was.  I got told in no uncertain terms to take the logo
>>off our internal intranet site.  It offended some prissy people.  We
>>have to cater to the prissiest among us.  It makes me want to puke.
> 
> 
> "Jesus HP Laser Jet Christ!"
> 
> Oh, i guess i can't say that either...
> 
> 
>>So, will we be the only *BSD without the beastie?
> 
> 
>  As others have pointed out, OpenBSD and DragonflyBSD have both switched
> to other characters. (Partially or entirely.)
> 
> However, unlike OpenBSD or DragonflyBSD, NetBSD was (more-or-less) a
> continuation of the BSD project (rather than a fork of another BSD-derived
> project), and dropping the mascot of that program suggests to me that
> perhaps NetBSD no longer cares about that lineage and history.
> 
>   The acronym "BSD" and the daemon image are tightly coupled in my
> mind. Perhaps when getting rid of the BSD mascot, NetBSD should also
> remove the "BSD" from its name?  But being just "Net" seems kinda
> silly. So then perhaps become "YACFULOS" ("Yet Another Collaborative Free
> Unix-Like Operating System") or something.
> 
>  I'm greatly saddened by this.  And i'm not just saying this because i
> have the 4.3 BSD book-cover daemon tattood on my left leg.
> 
> http://www.giantfoo.org/~johan/Images/Animals/Humans/johan/BSD-tattoo-1.jpeg
> 
> (.... which is copyrighted by Marshall Kirk McKusick)
> 
> 
>  At the end of the day, what really matters (or should really matter) is
> the quality of the project (the OS, code, interactions of the community),
> not the superficial window dressing.  But ironically, i think the current
> plan to dump the daemon is just that: change solely for appearances'
> sake. And i doubt many places will suddenly choose NetBSD instead of Linux
> or FreeBSD just because there's no longer a cute little daemon logo.
> 
> 
> Oh, and what's going to happen to the stuff in here?:
> 
> http://www.netbsd.org/gallery/devotionalia.html 
> 
> 
> And is NetBSD still going to accept proceeds of sales of t-shirts with the
> daemon on them?
> 
> 
>  All of that being said, i'm not against any sort of change.  I can
> readily understand how the currnet logo could be difficult to reproduce or
> work with.  It is complicated and non-trivial to draw.  And i can even
> understand how some people might dislike the militaristic Iwo Jima
> reference.
> 
>  But can we please save the daemon?
> 
>  -johan