Subject: Re: terminals under X 4.2.0 - problems with variables and setup
To: Lubos Vrbka <firstname.lastname@example.org>
From: Greg A. Woods <email@example.com>
Date: 12/05/2002 19:19:37
[ On Thursday, December 5, 2002 at 20:08:49 (+0100), Lubos Vrbka wrote: ]
> Subject: Re: terminals under X 4.2.0 - problems with variables and setup
> it worked fine with netbsd-1.5 on i386, X11R6 version 4.0.1 and before it. i
> upgraded to netbsd-1.6, X11R6 4.2.0 few months ago and it worked no more. my
> colleague upgraded to 1.6 week ago and experienced the same "problem".
I don't know about separate Xfree86 distributions for NetBSD, nor even
for certain about the xterm in xsrc/xfree, but I do know that what's
been in /usr/xsrc has _always_ required '-ls' to make the shell started
by an xterm into a login shell.
> hope that the wrong information in the man (-e switch is incompatible
> with -ls; xterm -ls -e ssh name works fine) will be removed...
Why would you expect '-ls' and '-e' to be compatible? They really are not.
'-ls' causes, among other things IIRC, a '-' character to be prepended
to the argv value of the shell process. This is how the shell
figures out that it's supposed to be a login shell. See sh(1):
When first starting, the
shell inspects argument 0, and if it begins with a dash `-', the shell is
also considered a login shell. This is normally done automatically by
the system when the user first logs in. A login shell first reads com-
mands from the files /etc/profile and .profile if they exist.
'-e' on the other hand runs something other than a shell so whatever you
specify to run has to tell the ultimate shell to be a login shell.
I'm beginning to notice that you mentions '-e ssh' on occasion. That's
probably your problem: SSH Not xterm.
Run an xterm like 'xterm -ls &' and then from that terminal's prompt try
running your ssh command and see what happens.
I start my slogin xterm windows much like this (from ctwm):
xterm -cn -rw -sb -si -sk -sl 2048 -ziconbeep 1 -e slogin -C proven.weird.com &
but I use SSH-3.2, not OpenSSH.
(BTW, I set "reply-to:" to be the list for a reason -- I don't need two
copies of every reply. Feel free to do the same! :-)
Greg A. Woods
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