> >I'd disagree with that.  telnet became moot when RTM published
> >his papers in 85 about sniffing passwords.  rsh/rlogin were
> >hacks that filled the gap.
>
> ??  rsh/rlogin came with 4.2bsd from Berkeley.  rtm wrote a tech report
> in 1985 on using sequence number attacks against rsh.  Password
> -sniffing was obviously possible (I have vague recollections of the

in my physically owned network it is not a problem.

(same with static IPsec tables set properly i think)

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