Subject: Re: OT: apple's marketing is just insolent
To: None <netbsd-users@netbsd.org>
From: None <vodka@intoxicate.us>
List: netbsd-users
Date: 05/17/2002 23:03:11
I'm not very impressed by MacOS X and Apple to be honest.  I noticed on my
friend's G4, after running MacOS X for a few days, things tend to slow down
quite a bit.  Something like this happens only with Windows, but maybe it's
because of all those M$ applications that come with MacOS X now.  There's
also this thing about having these super-friendly, super-cute GUIs and
applications.  They attract the wrong kind of people (stupid people), and
that is one reason why I use NetBSD.  The userbase is excellent.

Furthermore, that "Sends other Unix boxes to /dev/null" slogan is just
insulting.  You can't even compare MacOS X with Solaris or IRIX.  Apple
should not forget where MacOS X is comming from before making up stupid
slogans like the one in the picture.  I will never ever use MacOS X.  Or a
macintosh for that matter.

Just my $0.02 on this.

> On Thu, May 16, 2002 at 09:53:44PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
>> see http://3miasto.net/~wojtek/apple.jpg
>>
>> (700kB, but i made it huge as all details are easy to see. including
>> memory sizes of processes....)
>>
>> i just can't find good description of doing such things.
>
> Good description of doing what things?
>
>> just wait and we will have yet another army of "unix experts".
>>
>> sorry for OT.
>
> OT isn't the problem, not knowing why you posted is... :)
>
> If you are talking about the process sizes, keep in mind that NetBSD
> will do the same thing if running applications like that. Also, a lot
> of that might be shared, and very likely is. Finally, MacOS graphics
> keeps complete image maps of all windows. That... you can debate on
> since there are obvious trade-offs involved.
>
> I don't see any end to memory consumption in the short term, because
> the languages and libraries being used are simply huge, and Apple is
> hardly alone in that.  Fire up NetBSD with applications like the Mac
> runs, and it won't be any different.
>
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