Subject: RE: [open-source] Sun to start charging for Star Office
To: 'paul beard' <paulbeard@mac.com>
From: Stephane St Hilaire <ssthilaire@hyperchip.com>
List: netbsd-users
Date: 03/26/2002 13:07:33
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: paul beard [mailto:paulbeard@mac.com]
> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 6:26 PM
> To: Stephane St Hilaire
> Cc: netbsd-users
> Subject: Re: [open-source] Sun to start charging for Star Office
> 
>  > I'm sure NetBSD doesn't have threads/multiprocessing support
>  > due to Microsoft predatory practices. What kind of state of
>  > the art are you talking about ?
> 
> let me put it another way: how much time and effort went and still
> goes into "the browser war" and competing streaming media
> standards that might be better spent on real advances?
> 

Just being curious, but what real advances would you rather time was spent
on ?


>  > I'm assuming
>  > that when one of the open unixes makes a real breaktrough 
> marketwise,
>  > he'll jump right in and provide the best Unix apps that anyone
>  > will have ever used. Perhaps then the Ms bashing will tone
>  > down just a little once Ms Office is available everywhere.
> 
> maybe they could make a breakthrough if there were mainstream apps
> like Office . . .

Perhaps but there is no incentive for Ms to make Office available on NetBSD.



> too cynical and pessimistic to merit a reply beyond this: pure 
> unfettered capitalism and monopolies can't co-exist.

True, but the goal of any company in a capitalist system is to grow and keep
on growing (if this is cynical than call me a cynic), which by definition
means that ultimately it wants to become a monopoly (the name of the game).
Now the fact that winning in the game of capitalism means that the
government is going to break you up (one nice reward for a job well done)
kind of makes you wonder about the validity of the game in the first place.


Steph


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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; -----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; From: paul beard [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:paulbeard@mac.com">mailto:paulbeard@mac.com</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 6:26 PM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; To: Stephane St Hilaire</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Cc: netbsd-users</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Subject: Re: [open-source] Sun to start =
charging for Star Office</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt; I'm sure NetBSD doesn't have =
threads/multiprocessing support</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt; due to Microsoft predatory =
practices. What kind of state of</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt; the art are you talking about =
?</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; let me put it another way: how much time and =
effort went and still</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; goes into &quot;the browser war&quot; and =
competing streaming media</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; standards that might be better spent on real =
advances?</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Just being curious, but what real advances would you =
rather time was spent on ?</FONT>
</P>
<BR>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt; I'm assuming</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt; that when one of the open unixes =
makes a real breaktrough </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; marketwise,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt; he'll jump right in and provide the =
best Unix apps that anyone</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt; will have ever used. Perhaps then =
the Ms bashing will tone</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt; down just a little once Ms Office is =
available everywhere.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; maybe they could make a breakthrough if there =
were mainstream apps</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; like Office . . .</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Perhaps but there is no incentive for Ms to make =
Office available on NetBSD. </FONT>
</P>
<BR>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; too cynical and pessimistic to merit a reply =
beyond this: pure </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; unfettered capitalism and monopolies can't =
co-exist.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>True, but the goal of any company in a capitalist =
system is to grow and keep on growing (if this is cynical than call me =
a cynic), which by definition means that ultimately it wants to become =
a monopoly (the name of the game). Now the fact that winning in the =
game of capitalism means that the government is going to break you up =
(one nice reward for a job well done) kind of makes you wonder about =
the validity of the game in the first place.</FONT></P>
<BR>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Steph</FONT>
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