Subject: RE: [open-source] Sun to start charging for Star Office
To: 'paul beard' <netbsd-users@netbsd.org>
From: Stephane St Hilaire <ssthilaire@hyperchip.com>
List: netbsd-users
Date: 03/22/2002 18:07:23
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> >>What are we really after here? If MSFT were broken up into Apps
> >>and OSes, two separate entities, and MSApps released Office or the
> >>component apps for *nix, would you buy it? Or is this all about
> >>not using any MSFT products no matter how much sense it might
> >>make? And understand, I'm aware of the predatory actions and all
> >>the rest: I think the state of the art has been set back 5-10
> >>years as a result of it all. But if you could just use the apps
I'm sure NetBSD doesn't have threads/multiprocessing support due to
Microsoft predatory practices.
What kind of state of the art are you talking about ?
> > Well, now isn't that the problem after all?
>
> well, no, not entirely. You can't get any MSFT office apps for
> *nix at any price, reliable or no. If I were asked by the world's
> richest man -- since he only lives a few miles from me, perhaps
> I'll be in line with him at Starbucks -- what he could do for me,
> I'd want those apps to be available for all desktop OSes,
> regardless of whose OS it is.
He's doing it for the Mac OS and it's not his OS.
I'm assuming that when one of the open unixes makes a real breaktrough
marketwise, he'll jump right in and provide the best Unix apps that anyone
will have ever used. Perhaps then the Ms bashing will tone down just a
little once Ms Office is available everywhere.
>
> > If they would start playing the game fair, would stop trying to lock
> > me in, and stop making everything I do obsolete ever two years, I
> > might use their stuff.
In a capitalist society playing fair probably amounts to loosing.
Just my opinons.
Steph
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> >>What are we really after here? If MSFT =
were broken up into Apps</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> >>and OSes, two separate entities, and =
MSApps released Office or the</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> >>component apps for *nix, would you buy =
it? Or is this all about </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> >>not using any MSFT products no matter =
how much sense it might </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> >>make? And understand, I'm aware of the =
predatory actions and all </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> >>the rest: I think the state of the art =
has been set back 5-10 </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> >>years as a result of it all. But if you =
could just use the apps </FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I'm sure NetBSD doesn't have threads/multiprocessing =
support due to Microsoft predatory practices.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>What kind of state of the art are you talking about =
?</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > Well, now isn't that the problem after =
all?</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> well, no, not entirely. You can't get any MSFT =
office apps for </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> *nix at any price, reliable or no. If I were =
asked by the world's </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> richest man -- since he only lives a few miles =
from me, perhaps </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> I'll be in line with him at Starbucks -- what =
he could do for me, </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> I'd want those apps to be available for all =
desktop OSes, </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> regardless of whose OS it is.</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>He's doing it for the Mac OS and it's not his OS. =
</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>I'm assuming that when one of the open unixes makes =
a real breaktrough marketwise, he'll jump right in and provide the best =
Unix apps that anyone will have ever used. Perhaps then the Ms bashing =
will tone down just a little once Ms Office is available =
everywhere.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > If they would start playing the game fair, =
would stop trying to lock</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > me in, and stop making everything I do =
obsolete ever two years, I</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > might use their stuff.</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a capitalist society playing fair probably amounts =
to loosing.</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Just my opinons.</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Steph</FONT>
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