...and (as I understand it), in-kernel PPPoE is only available for -current. (Or is it tucked away in my 1.5.2 release somewhere? I can't see it if it is.) RJ may already know that, but since he asked on netbsd-users, rather than current-users, it's not clear if he's running -current. (^& ``I probably don't know what I'm talking about.'' --rauch@math.rice.edu