just a silly unix question: why do files under the common unix filesystems (ffs, ufs, et al) have atime, ctime, and mtime, but no creation time? -- Aaron J. Grier | "Not your ordinary poofy goof." | agrier@poofygoof.com "[N]ow would be a great time for record companies to start releasing everything on vinyl." -- David Wolf, regarding mp3 pirating