Subject: Re: port-i386/933: fchown warning from mv since updating to -current
To: Simon J. Gerraty <firstname.lastname@example.org>
From: Jason Downs <downsj@SJ.Xenotropic.COM>
Date: 04/01/1995 20:10:50
In message <199504020154.LAA13182@zen.void.oz.au>,
"Simon J. Gerraty" writes:
>> I'd guess that /tmp is owned by group wheel, so files created in that
>> directory by default are owned by group wheel, and that user `news' is
>Yes /tmp was owned by group wheel and news is not a member.
>/etc/mtree/4.4BSD.dist indicates that this is correct.
>uname=root gname=wheel mode=01777
>at least that's what I've always used.
>> not in group wheel, so mv(1) is unable to change the group of the
>Yet all apparently necessary ownership was correct once the mv was
>completed. Though I guess that was more the fact that /var/spool/nn
>was owned by group news ?
>Ok, so now /var/tmp is owned by group bin
>news:8$ touch /var/tmp/junk
>news:9$ ls -lg /var/tmp/junk
>-rw-rw-r-- 1 news bin 0 Apr 2 11:47 /var/tmp/junk
>news:10$ mv /var/tmp/junk /var/spool/nn
>mv: /var/spool/nn/junk: set owner/group: Operation not permitted
>news:11$ ls -lg /var/spool/nn/junk
>-rw-rw-r-- 1 news news 0 Apr 2 11:47 /var/spool/nn/junk
>news:12$ ls -aldg /var/tmp
>drwxrwxrwt 2 root bin 512 Apr 2 11:48 /var/tmp
>uid=8(news) gid=8(news) groups=8(news)
The BSD group semantics are fundamentally broken, and always have been.
It would be much, much, nicer if NetBSD offered the SysV (correct)
semantics as some type of option. Or at least the SunOS 4-style
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