--- Rasputin <rasputnik@hellooperator.net> wrote: > Lubomir Sedlacik
wrote:
> 
> >On Thu, Jan 08, 2004 at 07:41:28AM -0800, Andy R wrote:
> >  
> >
> >>--- Nicholas Jackson <nicholasj@ncafe.com> wrote:
> >>    
> >>
> >>>I'm surprised that nobody has come out with a complete PC on a PCI
> >>>card option, perhaps using a 2.5 disk. Then, with the proper
> >>>interface built into the hardware, it might be possible to run a
> >>>second machine inside of your main OS, without the huge
> performance
> >>>hit of vmware, etc.
> >>>      
> >>>
> 
> >>This does exist actually. Sun did it. I have one sitting here at
> work
> >>but I've never used it. It's got an AMD chip (K-6II I think) and 1
> >>dimm slot. It's got a scsi interface to connect to a disk too. I'm
> not
> >>sure what else, I'd have to find it... If this worked under NetBSD
> or
> >>some other OS I'd like to use, that would be cool. I've never
> looked
> >>into it...
> >>    
> >>
> >
> >it's called SunPCi (the older 486 and pentium models were SunPC
> >Accelerator/SunPC).  for further details see the "PC Cards" section
> at:
> >
> > 
>
http://sunsolve.sun.com/handbook_pub/Devices/Miscellaneous/MISC_TOC.html
> >
> >iirc, there are drivers for Windows (as a host OS) to deal with the
> disk
> >image on the real disk and virtual drives support.
> >  
> >
> 
> Also there are newer things on the horizon - see
> 
>
http://www.findarticles.com/cf_dls/m0EIN/2001_July_30/76840726/p1/article.jhtml
> 
> for a 'pc in a 5.25" drive bay' solution.
> 
> When the nano-itx epia boards come out in the summer (Ghz intel in a 
> 12cm package, everything
> on one board and draws about 25W) I expect  to see more of these. Or 
> I'll be building my own - I quite
> fancy a cluster in a tower case, and the average 400W PSU should run 
> half a dozen along with RAID
> quite happily :)

I think have done this for PowerPC already (Terra Soft's BriQ), but I
would have thought the massive amount of heat dissipated by modern
intel chips would make this impractical: how do they get rid of the
heat (or will they use slower/older chips to get it to work)? The BriQ
uses CPUs that are much slower than the cutting edge....the cpu+heat
sink alone will not fit in a 5.25" drive bay for a GHz cpu.

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