Hi Gilbert,

Thank you very much for the info!  I tried it out and
everything went pretty smooth until I started
unzipping the files.  My /usr dir was full!  So I
deleted the pkgsrc and it freed enough space to
continue.

After installing everything, I then configured it for
the Dlink NIC and rebooted.  However, I am still
getting the watchdog timeout error during the boot and
if I try to use the card.  Is there anything else I
could try to get the card working?

Also, I am thinking of doing a reinstall of 1.6.1
because some other things aren't working properly
under this snapshot.  But, they only stopped when I
unzipped and installed the .tgz files. However, when I
booted under the new kernel but with the old files,
other hardware was recognized better.  Because of
this, I am wondering, can I use the new kernel but
keep the old files?

Thanks,
J Silverman
--- Gilbert Fernandes <gilbertf@netbsd-fr.org> wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 22, 2003 at 10:01:44AM -0800, JS wrote:
> 
> this is rather easy. the netbsd project has a
> few machines we call "releng" which do daily
> builds of current source, and it records what
> happened for each platform.
> 
> first use a web browser to check releng.netbsd.org
> and check what is the last succesful recorded
> build for your platform. use the first link to
> uccess Sat Dec 13 00:00:00 UTC 2003 tgm             
>                       
> link is :
> http://releng.netbsd.org/ab/B_HEAD/arch.html
> 
> then scroll down to the i386 line. from
> there we can see that :
> 
> 386 Current Build Prior Build Last Success
> * Fail * Tue Dec 16 00:00:00 UTC 2003 tgm
> Success Sat Dec 13 00:00:00 UTC 2003 tgm
> 
> so we got success on Dec 13. now you can use
> a ftp client to check releng.netbsd.org
> and find the folder where the install files
> are found. the first thing to do is download
> a kernel and boot it. then you can just use
> tar to install the new snapshot (doing a
> backup of /etc and /root can be helpful,
> to save your config and some personal dot
> config files in /root). there are better
> ways to do that but i like it fast and hard,
> so i just use tar from my root / to install
> snapshots and "jump" from a snapshot to another
> (this can be dangerous but doing a snapshot
> jump as i call it can be fun)
> 
> 
> right now i'm using a snapshot but i dont
> recall when i did it exactly. i'm using
> 1.6ZG and it works just fine with everything.
> i don't know which one is the current one.
> 
> what sometimes does break is pkgsrc when
> you jump to a snapshot but that doesn't happen
> that much. so removing all your pkgsrc installed
> stuff is not always a good idea before a
> jump but once you are running a snaphot it's
> not a bad idea to check (and upgrade) your
> pkgsrc for new stuff since some changes in
> current might break some installed software.
> 
> download the file netbsd-GENERIC.gz from :
> 
> ftp://releng.netbsd.org/
> 
> folder :
> 
>
/pub/NetBSD-daily/current/200312130000/i386/binary/kernel
> 
> now we install it on / :
> 
> gzip -d netbsd-GENERIC.gz
> mv netbsd-GENERIC /netbsd.current
> 
> boot it. when you reboot, hit any key
> when the netbsd loader appears and type
> "boot netbsd.current". if everything seems
> to be detected properly and is working,
> you can push farther.
> 
> on the ftp of releng.netbsd.org move to the
> following folder :
> 
>
/pub/NetBSD-daily/current/200312130000/i386/binary/sets
> 
> grab the following files :
> 
> base.tgz
> comp.tgz
> etc.tgz
> games.tgz
> man.tgz
> misc.tgz
> text.tgz
> 
> and if you use x window, get those too :
> 
> xbase.tgz
> xcomp.tgz
> xcontrib.tgz
> xfont.tgz
> xmisc.tgz
> xserver.tgz
> 
> move all those tgz files to / and
> then it's just using tar zxpf
> (use tar zxpfv if you want it verbose,
> and see files name scrolling on screen)
> 
> i would suggest using gzip -t on each
> of the downloaded files. make sure that
> every .tgz file is ok before going
> further. if you start installing to later
> discover that a file had been damaged
> during downloaded or is borked, you'll
> end up with a mix of current and 1.6.1
> and things could get pretty bad on
> reboot. so once you downloaded the .tgz
> files check each one using gzip -t ;
> if the gzip checksum is ok, it's probable
> that all will go ok.
> 
> for example :
> 
> tar zxpf base.tgz
> tar zxpf comp.tgz
> [..]
> 
> once this is done, you got to config your
> /etc (that's why a backup can be useful)
> and restore some dot config files in
> your /home if you got any (your ~/*rc ones
> for example)
> 
> this is a rather hardcore way of doing
> it, i must admit.
> 
> the proper and nice way is to backup
> your data, and install a snapshot as
> you installed your 1.6.1
> 
> well. please backup your data before
> doing it whatever the method you
> choose. you'll be glad if shit happens * ;)
> 
> * if shit can happen, it will
> 
> -- 
> Gilbert Fernandes
> 

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