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Re: toolchain/51238: ELF binaries don't carry ELFOSABI_NETBSD in their header



The following reply was made to PR toolchain/51238; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Joerg Sonnenberger <joerg%bec.de@localhost>
To: gnats-bugs%NetBSD.org@localhost
Cc: toolchain-manager%netbsd.org@localhost, gnats-admin%netbsd.org@localhost,
	netbsd-bugs%netbsd.org@localhost, nolden%kde.org@localhost
Subject: Re: toolchain/51238: ELF binaries don't carry ELFOSABI_NETBSD in
 their header
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2016 10:18:20 +0200

 On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 07:15:01AM +0000, David Holland wrote:
 > The following reply was made to PR toolchain/51238; it has been noted by GNATS.
 > 
 > From: David Holland <dholland-bugs%netbsd.org@localhost>
 > To: gnats-bugs%NetBSD.org@localhost
 > Cc: 
 > Subject: Re: toolchain/51238: ELF binaries don't carry ELFOSABI_NETBSD in
 >  their header
 > Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2016 07:10:35 +0000
 > 
 >  On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 09:00:02PM +0000, Joerg Sonnenberger wrote:
 >   >  > According to http://netbsd.gw.com/cgi-bin/man-cgi?elf+5 the
 >   >  > ELFOSABI_NETBSD is defined but not used:
 >   >  
 >   >  This is intentional.
 >   >  
 >   >  > However, a lot of binary programs that inspect elf binaries use the
 >   >  > header instead of inspecting PT_NOTE. Unfortunately, those programs
 >   >  > will detect NetBSD binaries as UNIX binaries and depending on their
 >   >  > logic will use some default value like Linux as the OS the binary is
 >   >  > built for, such as Qt Creator.
 >   >  
 >   >  That's a bug in the programs. There is no advantage to tagging with
 >   >  ELFOSABI_NETBSD. AS such: "No bug here, works as intended"
 >  
 >  ...other than say tagging the binary with the correct OS.
 >  
 >  Last I checked we don't have the same syscall table as SVR4, except
 >  when compat_svr4 is in use, so we hardly have the same OS ABI.
 
 It is not about system calls. It is about the implemented ABI. That's
 what we follow, including stack alignment on i386 etc. Looking at
 FreeBSD, they had more than enough problems with requiring tagging with
 the OSABI. It is a crude and limited hack. Heck, if you don't want to
 parse PT_NOTE yourself, call file(1).
 
 Joerg
 


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