Subject: RE: misc/33495: Offensive quote in netbsd fortune package
To: None <misc-bug-people@netbsd.org, gnats-admin@netbsd.org,>
From: Daniel Weiss <dweiss@alcor.concordia.ca>
List: netbsd-bugs
Date: 05/17/2006 14:45:01
The following reply was made to PR misc/33495; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: "Daniel Weiss" <dweiss@alcor.concordia.ca>
To: <gnats-bugs@NetBSD.org>
Cc: 
Subject: RE: misc/33495: Offensive quote in netbsd fortune package
Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 10:43:41 -0400

 Wow, you guys really do hate the US! What a rude and inappropriate comment.
 My problem with comments like that is that all they're meant to do is
 insight hate. I was under the impression that you were a company. Perhaps I
 was mistaken. I'm from Canada as a matter of fact. I'm not trying to find
 something offensive. It is offensive. I think you're all getting distracted
 from my original point. I actually hadn't realized there were so many
 quotations in the database that were offensive. I hadn't been using it that
 much. You yourself identified one that you thought might be offensive with
 regards to French people. There's your starting point. I asked if you could
 remove some harmful quotations. You said no. Thanks for your time and
 attention. You have made your position clear as crystal. 
 Dan
 
 -----Original Message-----
 From: Quentin Garnier [mailto:cube@cubidou.net] 
 Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 10:05 AM
 To: misc-bug-people@NetBSD.org; gnats-admin@NetBSD.org;
 netbsd-bugs@NetBSD.org; dweiss@alcor.concordia.ca
 Subject: Re: misc/33495: Offensive quote in netbsd fortune package
 
 The following reply was made to PR misc/33495; it has been noted by GNATS.
 
 From: Quentin Garnier <cube@cubidou.net>
 To: Daniel Weiss <dweiss@alcor.concordia.ca>
 Cc: gnats-bugs@NetBSD.org
 Subject: Re: misc/33495: Offensive quote in netbsd fortune package
 Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 16:02:53 +0200
 
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  On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 09:45:40AM -0400, Daniel Weiss wrote:
  > Christos Zoulas says:
  >=20
  > "Well, we have to draw the line somewhere on what is offensive or not."
  >=20
  > You bring up a valid point. Please note the response I received from one
 =
  of
  > your support team.
  
  There is no such thing as a "NetBSD support team".  This list is fully
  public, anybody can speak up any time on any subject.
  
  [...]
  > "I have moved the two offensive fortunes to
  >  fortunes2-o, but I have left the non-offensive ones alone"
  >=20
  > Perhaps I wasn't %100 clear. Hitler is part of the offensive quote. The
  > scary thing is I feel as though I've hit a nerve with some people. Is
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  re
  > really no one else you revere to quote in the fortune's program?=20
  
  People can be offended by so many things.  If the current US president
  had said anything quote-worthy, we could have added them, but then the
  grammar-savvy folks would have been offended.
  
  I'm sure I can feel offended by some of the quotes about French people
  if I put enough effort in it.
  
  --=20
  Quentin Garnier - cube@cubidou.net - cube@NetBSD.org
  "When I find the controls, I'll go where I like, I'll know where I want
  to be, but maybe for now I'll stay right here on a silent sea."
  KT Tunstall, Silent Sea, Eye to the Telescope, 2004.
  
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