The following reply was made to PR port-xen/29887; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Bill Studenmund <wrstuden@netbsd.org>
To: tech-userlevel@NetBSD.org, Jason Thorpe <thorpej@shagadelic.org>,
	YAMAMOTO Takashi <yamt@mwd.biglobe.ne.jp>, jhawk@MIT.EDU,
	christos@zoulas.com, gnats-bugs@NetBSD.org,
	port-xen-maintainer@NetBSD.org, netbsd-bugs@NetBSD.org
Cc: 
Subject: Re: port-xen/29887: sysctl kern.consdev coredumps
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 13:02:03 -0700

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 On Tue, Jun 21, 2005 at 08:46:47PM +0200, Joerg Sonnenberger wrote:
 > On Tue, Jun 21, 2005 at 01:14:25PM -0500, James Chacon wrote:
 > > BTW: -ffreestanding doesn't even imply it's what I would be using for
 > > this:
 > >=20
 > >        -ffreestanding
 > >            Assert that compilation takes place in a freestanding enviro=
 nment.
 > >            This implies -fno-builtin.  A freestanding environment is on=
 e in
 > >            which the standard library may not exist, and program startu=
 p may
 > >            not necessarily be at "main".  The most obvious example is a=
 n OS
 > >            kernel.  This is equivalent to -fno-hosted.
 >=20
 > Actually, it does say all the necessary thing.
 >=20
 > (a) The standard library may not exist. --> can't depend on the behaviour
 
 The problem, though, is that most of us consider the stdio code in libc to=
 =20
 be the "standard" library, it is present, and it is what we want. Thus=20
 -ffreestanding is not what we want.
 
 Take care,
 
 Bill
 
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