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On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 10:43:01 +0000 (UTC)
Mike Cheponis <mac@Wireless.Com> wrote:

Hi,

>           On the other hand, no, Linux does not have that _stupid_
>           notion of having totally separate kernel development for
>           different issues.  If you want a secure BSD, you get Open
>           BSD; if you want a usable BSD, you get FreeBSD; and if you
>           want BSD on other architectures, you get NetBSD.  That is
>           just idiotic, to have different teams worry about different
>           things.

Well, I don't see how that's NetBSD's fault. I mean, Linus is probably a
good hacker, but he has shown several times that he has a very myopic
vision of what OS development is about. If it's not Linux then it's
wrong, bad or both. So why should NetBSD users care about this guy's
opinion? It's a problem I've seen a lot of times with Linux users. A
real anecdote:

I work for a small company doing mainly in-house development, and the
issue of tab/indent settings comes up once in a while, a new programmer
was hired, a Linux user, and he said to me:

Him: Hi, I've seen most of you guys write code with 4-spaces tabs.
Me: Right.
Him: I think you should be using 8-spaces.
Me: Why?
Him: Well, Linus Torvals recommends it.
Me: Right.

The point I want to make is, if people like that guy can't (or don't
want to) think for themselves, it shouldn't be NetBSDers job to fix
that. I'd rather have those guys running Linux :)

> What I'm noticing is: Hell, the Big Penguin himself doesn't understand
> that NetBSD doesn't sacrifice security nor usability on the altar of
> h/w diversity.

Then he is uninformed and should do some research before commenting.

> Can't we promote NetBSD just a little bit?  Do we _have_ to just sit
> back, smiling, knowing that the unwashed masses don't know what they
> are missing by not trying NetBSD?

99% of the people I know who run NetBSD found out about it themselves.
How could NetBSD be 'sold' to others, that's an interesting question.
Who should be the target, Linux users? FreeBSD users? Old unix users?

Cheers,
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