Not me!  From where I sit, *BSD is only getting stronger!

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On Mon, 19 Aug 2002, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:

> Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 09:31:54 +0930
> From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey <grog@FreeBSD.org>
> To: Alfred Pythonstein <pythonstein@hotmail.com>,
>      Mike Cheponis <mac@Wireless.Com>
> Cc: chat@FreeBSD.org, hackers@FreeBSD.org, netbsd-advocacy@netbsd.org
> Subject: Re: It's dead Jim
>
> On Sunday, 18 August 2002 at  7:23:31 -0700, Alfred Pythonstein wrote:
> > Mad propz to Hiten 'imbecile' Pandya, btw...
> >
> > It is official -- Netcraft is now confirming: *BSD is dying
>
> Mike, is that you?
>
> > You don't need to be a Kreskin [amdest.com] to predict *BSD's future. The
> > hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't
> > be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are looking
> > very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose
> > market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood.
> >
> > FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core
> > developers. The sudden and unpleasant departures of long time FreeBSD
> > developers Jordan Hubbard and Mike Smith only serve to underscore the point
> > more clearly. There can no longer be any doubt: FreeBSD is dying.
> >
> > Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.
> >
> > OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many
> > users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD
> > posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about
> > 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the
> > volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A
> > recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market.
> > Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is
> > consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.
> >
> > Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went
> > out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS.
> > Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.
> >
> > All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share.
> > *BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If
> > *BSD is to survive at all it will be among OS dilettante dabblers. *BSD
> > continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point
> > in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD is dead.
> >
> > Fact: *BSD is dying
>
> Fact: this claim is over a year old.
>
> On Sunday, 22 April 2001 at 14:44:28 -0700, Mike Cheponis wrote:
> > Seen on slashdot today:
> > http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=01/04/22/0056207&threshold=-1&commentsort=0&mode=thread&pid=80
> >
> > "We should all keep in mind this simple truth: *BSD is dying.
> >
> > You don't need to be Kreskin to predict *BSD's future. The hand
> > writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there
> > won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are
> > looking very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD
> > continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood.
> >
> > Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.
> >
> > OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How
> > many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD
> > versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to
> > 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts
> > on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore
> > there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at
> > about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are
> > (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the
> > number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.
> >
> > Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on,
> > FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell
> > another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to
> > another charnel house.
> >
> > All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market
> > share. *BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are
> > very dim. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among OS hobbyists,
> > dabblers, and dilettantes. *BSD continues to decay. Nothing short of
> > a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical
> > purposes, *BSD is dead. "
>
> Fact: trolls are facing hard times.
>
> Fact: trolls are dying.  This one is dead, but hasn't noticed it yet.
>
> Greg
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