Subject: Re: TwoCows articles on BSD (was: Someone please flame TwoCows)
To: Wes Peters <>
From: Greg Lehey <>
List: netbsd-advocacy
Date: 01/07/2001 17:33:59
On Saturday,  6 January 2001 at 23:36:38 -0700, Wes Peters wrote:
> Greg Lehey wrote:
>> This came from the NetBSD advocacy list.  There are articles on all
>> three BSDs there, with some factual errors (the biggest one I saw was
>> that they claim all three systems have a GPL licence).  On the other
>> hand, it's intended to be positive, and we shouldn't follow Hubert's
>> lead and flame the author.  Instead, it would be nice if as many
>> people as possible sent him messages correcting factual errors (but
>> without saying "My BSD is better than his BSD").
> Flaming is not likely to help much.  Patiently and politely explaining
> might.  My response, typed terribly into their itty-bitty response box:
>> NetBSD, OpenBSD, FreeBSD under GPL?  Heaven forbid!
>> Just to avoid confusion, I'll paste in the license
>> from this FreeBSD system:
>>  * Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1988, 1990, 1993
>>  *      The Regents of the University of California.  All rights reserved.
>>  *
>> <snip>
>>  * 3. All advertising materials mentioning features or use of this software
>>  *    must display the following acknowledgement:
>>  *      This product includes software developed by the University of
>>  *      California, Berkeley and its contributors.

Oops.  This one is dead.

>> Sure enough, nothing in there about "you must
>> give away everything you work on," "this license
>> virally attaches itself to every piece of software
>> in comes on contact with," or any other GPL-like
>> clauses.  Must not be the GPL.
>> This is often know as a "Berkeley" license, and it
>> allows you to do with the software as you choose.
>> Kirk McKusick, the keeper of the flame at UC Berkeley
>> these days, refers to it as the "copycenter" as in
>> "take it down to the copycenter and make as many
>> copies as you wish.
>> Thanks for noticing, and please don't hesitate to ask
>> if you need clarification on points like this in the
>> future.  Feel free to consult one or more of the
>> following mailing lists (in alphabetical order):
>> The bright, cheery BSD advocates there will be happy to
>> help with BSD licensing, history, and community
>> questions.
> If someone else would like to point the author at a web article or two
> explaining the difference between the GPL and Berkeley licenses, and
> another point him to the "Open Source" acceptance of the 2-clause
> license, perhaps we'll have him gently educated.

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