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From: dinsen@danbbs.dk (Anders Dinsen)
To: Marc Baudoin <babafou@babafou.eu.org>
Cc: netbsd-advocacy@NetBSD.ORG, gateway@core.de
Subject: Re: Export NetBSD CDs
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 15:41:21 GMT
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Markus Illenseer in Germany makes the Gateway! Volume 3, a two-cd-set
with 1.3.2 for all platforms and packages (also the precompiled ones).
They are "exportable", i.e. fully legal in all European countries.

See also http://core.de/Gateway/

I'd suggest making Markus' CD-ROMs official NetBSD cd-roms. Along with
some for the US market (with crypto-code).

(I have CC'ed this to Markus, in the hope that he responds...)

Anders

On Sun, 11 Oct 1998 11:11:50 +0200, Marc Baudoin
<babafou@babafou.eu.org> wrote:
>We discussed some time ago about making NetBSD CDs with no crypto
>stuff so that they can be exported from the USA and imported in
>countries like France that have strong laws against cryptography.
>
>I'm convinced the next CDs should be made with no crypto stuff,
>so that they can be used by virtually anynone anywhere.  It's
>mandatory if we want to spread NetBSD out there.  The few people
>in the USA or Canada that really need Kerberos or other crypto
>stuff can always get them by FTP.
>
>I also insist on the necessity for the NetBSD Foundation to have
>CDs if we want more and more people to be able to install NetBSD.
>Sure we're not backed up by a big CD vendor as FreeBSD is by
>Walnut Creek, and that's a disadvantage for us, but we do need
>CDs.
>
>The 1.3.2 CDs are sold out so is there a plan to make new ones
>right now, should we wait for NetBSD 1.3.3 (I saw some messages
>about 1.3.3 in the CVS commits) or is there no plan at all about
>making new CDs?
>
>The point is the French people here can offer help if the NetBSD
>Foundation needs it.  I met with Paul Marques Mota last week.
>He's responsible for the French NetBSD mirror and he's willing to
>help making CDs if needed.
>
>I inquired about prices.  Making the master of the CD should cost
>a little less than $400, the master of the booklet around $120.
>Then each CD should cost $1 and $0.25 for each booklet.
>
>Of course, we can't afford to advance the money to make the CDs
>and we have no commercial channel to sell them here (though we
>can find it, it would be interesting to have something in Europe
>to sell CDs) so we need help from the NetBSD foundation on these
>aspects.
>
>What are your thoughts?

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