Subject: Re: ZFS
To: Timo Schoeler <>
From: Brett Lymn <>
List: current-users
Date: 09/02/2006 21:16:25
On Sat, Sep 02, 2006 at 11:45:37AM +0200, Timo Schoeler wrote:
> sure. i do have my opinion (here: wrt blobs).

As you have excessively demonstrated.  Here is some news for you.
People understand your point of view but don't agree with it.  This is
what Bill told you too.

> there are dozens, if not hundreds of subscribers of the mailing list 
> that obviously inherently agree with blobs being evil. otherwise they 
> would respond (even if it'd be only a fraction of them, you could see 
> some emails) to this thread.

Ridiculous assertion.  Clearly they are silent because they agree that
blobs can be useful and don't feel the need to enter into a
discourse, especially with someone who has such a tenuous grasp on
civilised discourse.  In actual fact, you cannot legitimately claim
silence from someone as assent nor dissent on an issue trying to do so
is purely specious.

I am bemused that your behaviour is running true to my predictions.

> the point is that mr. lymn permanently introduces wrong analogies -- WTF 
> does gaming on Linux have to do with blobs on NetBSD? nothing.

The issues of whether or not we should be using binary blobs is one
that is the same across all Open Source operating systems.  It is
simpler to find examples of them in the Linux world is all.
> mr. lymn puts analogies into the thread that are just superlame and lack 
> any meaning. i could say 'my jeans is blue', he'd respong 'wrong! in 
> brazil the snow falls upwards, and it's warm snow!'.

here we go again with the emotive ad hominem attacks - you cannot just
focus on the issue, anyone who opposes you is "superlame" and/or too
stupid to understand the issue.

> it's funny that you as a single person speaks for the whole project, 
> even as you're developer. but there's not 'on behalf of the NetBSD team' 
> disclaimer on your header or footer, a bit of megalomania...

You really have no idea what goes on within the developer community of
NetBSD or you would not be making such a ridiculous, unfounded
accusation.  Just to spell it out, the developers discuss such issues
and come to a consensus as to what is the best thing to do.  Not all
developers have to agree with the decision, there are ways to handle
this within the community.

> who is 'we'? all the guys listed here, without exception:

As you noted, not without exception but our community can accept
diverse opinions on issues - something that you appear unable to do.

Brett Lymn (NetBSD Developer)