Subject: Re: ath seems still buggy
To: Perry E. Metzger <>
From: Marcin Jessa <>
List: current-users
Date: 10/20/2005 14:35:55
On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 10:10:40 -0400
"Perry E. Metzger" <> wrote:

> David Young <> writes:
> > The kernel features are there.  I plead ENOTIME a *long* time ago
> > regarding the userland.  I tend to think hacking the userland is not
> > tremendously difficult, albeit time-consuming.  I've been astonished
> > how much people will whine instead of writing code.
> Writing code requires familiarity with the particular interfaces in
> question. We don't have a lot of documentation on the APIs you would
> need to do this stuff, and most of us don't have the specialized
> knowledge needed. Most of us don't know the inside of how the 802.11
> stuff works so we aren't in a good position to do this off the bat.
> If you were to take the lead and present a couple of specific projects
> and offer to help people past the learning curve in accomplishing
> them, I suspect you would get more success than simply assuming people
> will intuit what is needed and step up to the plate.

I was about to write the same thing.
But I wouldn't count on that happen. I just yesterday asked what part I
can start to work on and got the silent treatment back. 
I've frankly no idea what needs to be done, what's already done and
where to start. 
But I am still very enthusiastic and full of hope as I bet many other
people here are.
I wished the senior NetBSD developers were better with listing up the
parts that need to be worked on attracting this way junior
programmers who are willing to work hard to improve stuff as myself.

I'm a bit more lucky tho, thanks to Martin Huseman I already found
something I want/can hack on.