Subject: Re: ath seems still buggy
To: None <current-users@NetBSD.org>
From: David Young <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Date: 10/19/2005 14:12:22
On Wed, Oct 19, 2005 at 03:00:55PM +0000, Marcin Jessa wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 10:39:14 -0400
> Thor Lancelot Simon <email@example.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 19, 2005 at 02:30:44PM +0000, Marcin Jessa wrote:
> > > On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 10:09:35 -0400
> > > Thor Lancelot Simon <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Wed, Oct 19, 2005 at 09:28:35AM +0000, Marcin Jessa wrote:
> > > > > On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 21:29:35 -0400
> > > > > Thor Lancelot Simon <email@example.com> wrote:
> > > > > :
> > > > > : In fact, I'm typing this through a Soekris with an Atheros
> > > > > wireless : module in hostap mode right now.
> > > > >
> > > > > I did not mean occasional usage on a laptop but in real life
> > > > > enviroment running as AP with clients connected to it.
> > > >
> > > > What part of "in hostap mode" did you miss?
> > >
> > >
> > > What part of "real life enviroment" did you miss?
> > No part at all, thank you. And you can spare me the revisionism; your
> > text above clearly says "on a laptop" -- i.e. on a client.
> > > I am not talking of home-brewed small scale soekris boxes which are
> > > useless/too slow for any modern WLAN Access Point.
> > I don't think you're going to get much help from anyone if you can't
> > refrain from all the hyperbole.
> I don't see any help coming from you in this rather pointless email
> exchange when all you seem to do is being rude.
> >As it happens, my former employer
> > shipped hundreds of units of wireless access points with hardware
> > essentially equivalent to the Soekris 4501 -- in fact, we used 4501s
> > for prototyping, which is why I own some. The 4501 will move about
> > 40Mbit/sec, which is plenty.
> Not with atheros. Soekris will choke at about 20Mbit/s. And this with
> commercial atheros drivers.
> It happens I work with wireless equipement as well and we stoped using
> soekris for anything else than 11b equipement.
> We've actually switched to WRAP boards since soekris had too high
> procentage of hardware failure.
> > I get significantly better than the 6Mbit/sec throughput you claim
> > from a 4501 with an Atheros card _while the host CPU on the 4501 is
> > doing AES encryption for IPsec ESP_.
> I am sorry, a typo. I meant 60mbit =~ 7.5MB/s.
> >I don't know what the problem
> > may be in your configuration, but insisting that anyone who isn't
> > having the same problem you are is incompetent or dishonest is just
> > silly.
> The problems as you describe them are what I call a lack of
> features compared to what I can find on FreeBSD.
The kernel features are there. I plead ENOTIME a *long* time ago
regarding the userland. I tend to think hacking the userland is not
tremendously difficult, albeit time-consuming. I've been astonished
how much people will whine instead of writing code.
David Young OJC Technologies
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